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Does it taste like despair? Seriously though, that's always my first thought when I read a story about something like this. It's like my brain can't help but cringe of the thought of eating something made this way, even if it's irrational.
Synthetic meat doesn't, at least, taste like screams.
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I am vegan and have been for about a year and a half. Animal products are not necessary for a healthy diet. That goes for adults and infants. http://www.veganoutreach.org/enewsletter/20070523.html Crown Shakur did die because he parents didn't supply him with adequate nutrition, but there's no reason he couldn't have gotten what he needed on a vegan diet. Plenty of children are raised on a 100% vegan diet and thrive…
There's a reason why there are practically no vegan power athletes. I was vegan for nearly ten years and I regret it immensely as I now see how badly it set me back. That said, you're right, with a properly-designed diet you can be healthy and happy. I don't believe you can ever be athletically optimal, however (aside from perhaps pure cardio sports).
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Where reality is defined as reality. Aversion to synthetic meat, as a concept, is irrational. There is no reason for it. If you disagree, explain your reason.
You make the claim that aversion to factory farming is rational, but you give no further explanation than to loudly exclaim that reality agrees with you, which is a singularly pointless thing to say.
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As someone who eats an entirely plant-based diet, it sounds like a terrible idea. If it tastes half as good as actual meat, then it will be much worse than even the cheapest, overprocessed soy protein 'burgers' in the frozen food section of the grocery store. Seriously.
Bull. Shit. My wife is a vegetarian. I've tried probably 8-10 different brands of vegie burgers and chicken nuggets. They don't taste even remotely like meat. Some do taste alright, I admit. Another problem is price. You would think soy products would be cheaper than meat. Nope. So freaking expensive.
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Why are you assuming that meat consumption is necessary?
At the very least some animal product is necessary (e.g., dairy or eggs). See: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/opinion/21planck.html Vegetarians can go ahead and argue that vegans are too extreme while vegans fire back that vegetarians are just vegans who lack commitment.
And you would be completely, utterly, absolutely wrong:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12826028
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
"Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life-cycle including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits"
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Why are you assuming that meat consumption is necessary?
I keep a high level of protein my diet. I've tried veggie burgers and other substitutes and enjoyed them a lot, but I can't replace all my meals with them because they're just so damn high in sodium. Any suggestions?
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Beef is not very energy efficient anyways, around 10% conversion rate from pasture calories to animal tissue. Pork and chicken are much more efficient though. From the very narrow perspective of energy efficient, the problem I see is that we are ditching a true and tested method of doing things with (up to a point) renewable resources and trying to create a substitute most likely based on petrochemicals, just at the…
What makes you think that petrochemicals would be involved in growing synthetic meat? They could use all kinds of natural feedstocks (starches).
Historically speaking, one of the reasons[1] domestication of large herbivores for meat production makes sense is because those can be fed with agriculture byproducts not suitable for human consumption. In industrial terms, it is a sort of "rejects reprocessing" that partially recovers an investment that was already lost.
Nowadays, we feed our animals with human suitable food, which is possible due to the (cost) efficiency gains of the green revolution, which originally was mostly about petrochemicals.
[1] the other being that in nomad societies, they constitute a food store that can carry its own weight around.
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At the very least some animal product is necessary (e.g., dairy or eggs). See: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/opinion/21planck.html Vegetarians can go ahead and argue that vegans are too extreme while vegans fire back that vegetarians are just vegans who lack commitment.
I don't think attacking vegetarian and vegans goes well to your credibility.
I like the idea of being able to be a carnivore without being a killer. However, there is a trap in this. Right now, there are cows and pigs wherever there are humans. Fast forward 200 years when we can grow our own meat in the lab. Who's going to keep around livestock? For what reason? Pigs and cows would exist in a wild state in a small fraction of their former "territory." If at all.