Source: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/021110aleyn...
Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
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Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#42Previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6146446
I was disappointed in that previous discussion. Take away the off-topic stuff and it seemed like most reactions varied from "Good, throw the book at him" to "God that guy was dumb". If Lewis' portrayal is accurate, then Aleynikov is pretty clearly an otherworldly technical type. That doesn't mean he should be exempt from laws, but it's not irrelevant either. For one thing, to anyone who knows the type, it says someth…
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#43Hmmm. Ok so this guy uploaded both OS and Goldman-authored code - as stated in the article. And uploading pure OS code wouldn't make sense anyway as it would be available anywhere. And did so immediately prior to taking a principle role at a competitor start up - no wonder they checked. He knew he was doing something wrong - as stated in the article - and his reason for deleting his bash history makes no sense (surel…
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#44Hmmm. Ok so this guy uploaded both OS and Goldman-authored code - as stated in the article. And uploading pure OS code wouldn't make sense anyway as it would be available anywhere. And did so immediately prior to taking a principle role at a competitor start up - no wonder they checked. He knew he was doing something wrong - as stated in the article - and his reason for deleting his bash history makes no sense (surel…
It does if you're careless enough to type them out in clear text, e.g. when connecting to a mysql database:
mysql -h host -u user -pMyPassword databaseRe: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#45Hmmm. Ok so this guy uploaded both OS and Goldman-authored code - as stated in the article. And uploading pure OS code wouldn't make sense anyway as it would be available anywhere. And did so immediately prior to taking a principle role at a competitor start up - no wonder they checked. He knew he was doing something wrong - as stated in the article - and his reason for deleting his bash history makes no sense (surel…
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
a) I didn't read anything that suggested he was protesting the law. Perhaps you could point out that part of the story. b) He didn't release proprietary source code. Or did I miss that part?
(a)I was offering him the benefit of the doubt. You're correct. Other possibilities include that he's simply a criminal or merely dumb. (b) You did. Reread the third line of the post.
Which third line of the post is this? I don't see anything about him releasing the source. And if you read up on the case, you will find that what he actually did was to upload encrypted archives that he then downloaded from home. I don't believe there's any allegation that he publicly distributed any of this source.
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#47Link bait title -- It was open source code mixed with Goldman Sachs proprietary code . This is also a summery of a much larger and more complete Vanity Fair article [1]. [1] http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2013/09/michael-lewis-gol...
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#48"He pulled up his browser and typed into it the words: Free Subversion Repository. Up popped a list of places that stored code, for free, and in a convenient fashion. He clicked the first link on the list. The entire process took about eight seconds."
Pushing "proprietary" code to a repo without knowing that it is a) secure and b) allowed feels like a great way do not follow a NDA.
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#49Link bait title -- It was open source code mixed with Goldman Sachs proprietary code . This is also a summery of a much larger and more complete Vanity Fair article [1]. [1] http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2013/09/michael-lewis-gol...
A SSL key can be smaller than 1k (ok, today more like 4k maybe more) and be very valuable
Not to mention older source code that was smaller but very valuable (think IBM PC bios, or the first Apple II ROM)
Re: Goldman Sachs sent a computer scientist to jail over 8MB of open source code
#50The main problem with this situation is educational: "brilliant scientists" and "smart developers" (especially from ex-USSR countries) are not paying enough attention to the legal issues related to their jobs. They do not try to secure their rights and do not consider the possibility that they violate the other's rights by their technical actions. It would be great if CS courses in universities will include a short talk about what's good and what's bad in legal field. For now, the more attention will be paid to such cases, the better for everyone.