Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.
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#32Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.
What about anonymity ? email has a potential for better anonymity than TOR via mixmaster or other remailers. Are you considering those features ?
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#33It‘s still decidedly aimed at techies though. I guess it'll be another few years before the benefits of a Free Software Gmail competitor will be accessible to the layman.
Hi there. I'm the UI/UX designer on the Mailpile team. Making every aspect of MP easy for non-techies is my primary concern. We aim to be easier than Wordpress with our Alpha release in Jan 2014. Please give me any feedback concerns with out to achieve this goal :)
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#34I like the concept - but it's missing a discussion of how they handle what I consider to be (by a pretty large factor) one of the most important feature in email - Anti-Spam. Gmail (which I'm not suggesting is an ideal, just what I happen to use) doesn't even bother to show me my spam folder - and, in the last week, it's redirected 1178 messages there.
Absolutely. I'm the lead developer - I spent almost 6 years working on anti-virus and anti-spam, so rest assured we know this is a big deal. :-) There is alot of quality stuff in the open source world already which we will be able to build on. Update: To clarify why we left it out of the pitch - we just took it for granted that you can't have a functional e-mail client without dealing with spam.
You should clarify it for sure. This is really important and it's hard to do properly.
Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back
#35I like the concept - but it's missing a discussion of how they handle what I consider to be (by a pretty large factor) one of the most important feature in email - Anti-Spam. Gmail (which I'm not suggesting is an ideal, just what I happen to use) doesn't even bother to show me my spam folder - and, in the last week, it's redirected 1178 messages there.
I recently switched to fastmail.fm and I really can't complain about their spam filtering even though they are way smaller than gmail.
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#37Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.
I applaud your efforts! I did not see mobile mentioned. Will there be a mobile-friendly version of the web client? Will there be IMAP access from (e.g.) mobile devices? (Under 'Current Features' you mention IMAP, but I did not understand if this refers to you acting as an IMAP client or server.) By the way, there seems to be a copy-paste typo in the description for 'Spam Detection'; it reads 'PGP encryption and verif…
Yes, making the web mobile friendly is definitely on the list of things to do. Native apps may come later, once the APIs have stabalized a bit. The current IMAP support is functioning as an IMAP client, we haven't started work on the server side yet. And thanks for the typo report :)
Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back
#38Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.
What about anonymity ? email has a potential for better anonymity than TOR via mixmaster or other remailers. Are you considering those features ?
It's not on the roadmap yet, but that is why we want to build a community, to see what people want.
Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back
#39Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.
how does the search work? is there a separate database? i use mairix (which does construct a separate database) and it's pretty damn awesome. have you looked at that? are re-inventing something worse? sometimes it is useful to search just the body. and mairix works fine with a huge volume of mail. also, getmail is python and does pop and imap downloads, so could be used there. [otherwise, this seems awesome and if i…
It is a custom search engine, written in Python. It works surprisingly well, most queries are answered under 200ms and tens of milliseconds are common once caches are warm.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is one of our main long-term goals. It's too early to say exactly how we would do that, but odds are there would be some sort of helper service in the cloud which relays and handles DNS and such. We need to get the client built first though.
And what would be your approach to spam-filtering? One of Google Mail's strengths is that it can use data from millions of accounts' emails to train its spam-filter. Do you see Mailpile offering some way to do the same thing in the future, with clients flagging spam and the result being used to train a 'community' filter?
This is still largely an open question. But there are some interesting possibilities for those who actually make their Mailpile visible on the public web - Mailpiles could talk to each other and exchange data of this sort. But ideally things like this would be a community effort shared between projects and we would join, not necessarily lead.