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Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by marquis »

marcosdumay wrote: post #18
marquis wrote: post #14

I applaud these goals however if we were to ever consider moving from Google Apps (which we would) it would only be for an open source project given that privacy is becoming the more critical issue as the years go on. It would be great to see a subscription based email service such as this where the source is fully available for scrutinizing and patching. Edit: Great, so the source is already available.

This is an open source project. Also, if privacy is important for you, you shouldn't look into subscription services, whatever software package they use.

That's fantastic. I didn't see any information about this on your page so you might want to make this clearer (I assure you I read it first before commenting, then went back and saw the Fork on Github ribbon, the only indication).

By subscription I mean that I am happy to support an open source project with regular funding. Initial funds from Indiegogo are not sufficient to maintain a long-term service and we'd be hesitant to move our most important business infrastructure to something that may not be updated regularly as the security environment changes. If you were to look into making this a business with recurring revenue I believe you would find there is a lot of support.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by andrewcooke »

marquis wrote: post #21
marcosdumay wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an open source project. Also, if privacy is important for you, you shouldn't look into subscription services, whatever software package they use.

That's fantastic. I didn't see any information about this on your page so you might want to make this clearer (I assure you I read it first before commenting, then went back and saw the Fork on Github ribbon, the only indication). By subscription I mean that I am happy to support an open source project with regular funding. Initial funds from Indiegogo are not sufficient to maintain a long-term service and we'd be he…

there's a big red line across the top right corner pointing to github (and licencing info there). there's another link to github near the end. apologies for a previous post that used strong language, but you really can't have looked very hard.

(you know, i just read chapter 2 of 'how to win friends and influence people' which tells me that criticising people never works because they simply work harder to justify themselves. it's the most depressing thing i have read in a long time, but it seems to be horribly, universally true. and it's so frustrating when the world seems to be populated by incompetent idiots. how do you convince someone 'nicely' that they complained about something without even reading it?)

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by mkl »

HerraBRE wrote: post #3

Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.

"Mailpile is a modern web-mail you run on your own computer."

I think this sentence should be the first thing anyone sees when they go to the page. The text at the moment assumes everyone already knows roughly what Mailpile is, so I didn't figure it out until I read HN comments.

Also, are there screenshots somewhere?

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by marquis »

andrewcooke wrote: post #23
marquis wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fantastic. I didn't see any information about this on your page so you might want to make this clearer (I assure you I read it first before commenting, then went back and saw the Fork on Github ribbon, the only indication). By subscription I mean that I am happy to support an open source project with regular funding. Initial funds from Indiegogo are not sufficient to maintain a long-term service and we'd be he…

there's a big red line across the top right corner pointing to github (and licencing info there). there's another link to github near the end. apologies for a previous post that used strong language, but you really can't have looked very hard. (you know, i just read chapter 2 of 'how to win friends and influence people' which tells me that criticising people never works because they simply work harder to justify them…

I scanned the body copy for the words open source, GPL etc and missed the github ribbon at the top. It just may be beneficial to put this in text somewhere so it's more obvious, and not everyone searching for a private email server may be aware of the Fork on Github means.

There's another aspect to criticism: I posted because I care about this topic, and care deeply. If I didn't care I wouldn't upvote or post.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by guygurari »

HerraBRE wrote: post #3

Bjarni here, lead dev. Happy to answer any questions.

I applaud your efforts! I did not see mobile mentioned. Will there be a mobile-friendly version of the web client? Will there be IMAP access from (e.g.) mobile devices? (Under 'Current Features' you mention IMAP, but I did not understand if this refers to you acting as an IMAP client or server.)

By the way, there seems to be a copy-paste typo in the description for 'Spam Detection'; it reads 'PGP encryption and verification of emails and recipients'.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by rufugee »

I just switched back to Zimbra (also open source) after years with Google Apps. It's been a spectacular experience so far, and it's nice to have email fell like email again (not to mention being in full control).. It has everything I need: a rich web client, good smartphone phone support, good spam filtering, and a good community.

Re: Mailpile: Let’s take email back

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Post by rufugee »

I just switched back to Zimbra (also open source) after years with Google Apps. It's been a spectacular experience so far, and it's nice to have email fell like email again (not to mention being in full control).. It has everything I need: a rich web client, good smartphone phone support, good spam filtering, and a good community.
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