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Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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They should buy bitcoins on some money they raised: it will surely spark a new spike in price, but, hopefully, because they initiated it, they can later profit from people who follow the trend by buying and raising the price even more. That way, they can maybe reach $32m target and possibly even more.

I'd be pissed if I backed an Ubuntu phone and the money was used for a Bitcoin pump-and-dump (that might not even work).

Yeah, I mean, that's the ethical side of the question. I agree.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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post #16

They should buy bitcoins on some money they raised: it will surely spark a new spike in price, but, hopefully, because they initiated it, they can later profit from people who follow the trend by buying and raising the price even more. That way, they can maybe reach $32m target and possibly even more.

Yeah, that sounds like a low-risk way to meet their financing goals.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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$32m seems like too much money to be crowdfunding at this point in time. Few years too early.

Not at all for that kind of project - the 600 and 625$ sold like cupcakes - the problem is they overshot the price of the device. 600$ seems about right.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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I guess it doesn't really matter. It's win-win either ways.

If it gets funded, they get to make a showcase device.

If it doesn't, they still get better publicity than they could have bought, and Canonical gets to be the company that tries new and interesting things.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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Canoical has made the same mistakes Microsoft did by branding their phone and tablet OS "Ubuntu"... It hurt Ubuntu desktop in the process with Unity. Convergence might be the future, but the breakpoints in usability and public imagination just haven't been hit yet. I think Android and iOS have a better opportunity to scale up and meet desktop needs without alienating users than Windows explorer, Gnome 2.0 or KDE have…

How exactly they can meet desktop needs? Android apps are not good at talking to each other and using each other api-s, they are sandboxed. From what I know iOS is the same.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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Canoical has made the same mistakes Microsoft did by branding their phone and tablet OS "Ubuntu"... It hurt Ubuntu desktop in the process with Unity. Convergence might be the future, but the breakpoints in usability and public imagination just haven't been hit yet. I think Android and iOS have a better opportunity to scale up and meet desktop needs without alienating users than Windows explorer, Gnome 2.0 or KDE have…

How exactly they can meet desktop needs? Android apps are not good at talking to each other and using each other api-s, they are sandboxed. From what I know iOS is the same.

Incorrect. Android Apps talk to each other nbrilliantly usi ng Content provider, Intents and Broadcasts

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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$32m seems like too much money to be crowdfunding at this point in time. Few years too early.

Not at all for that kind of project - the 600 and 625$ sold like cupcakes - the problem is they overshot the price of the device. 600$ seems about right.

I'm talking more about the indiegogo platform and others like it - there aren't enough people on it to be raising $32m in a short period of time.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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Canoical has made the same mistakes Microsoft did by branding their phone and tablet OS "Ubuntu"... It hurt Ubuntu desktop in the process with Unity. Convergence might be the future, but the breakpoints in usability and public imagination just haven't been hit yet. I think Android and iOS have a better opportunity to scale up and meet desktop needs without alienating users than Windows explorer, Gnome 2.0 or KDE have…

I don't agree that either the Windows or Ubuntu names are really a negative for the phone brands offered by each. I do think the phone OS market is a tough nut to crack given the extremely wide penetration of iOS and Android, but that persists regardless of OS name. You could call Windows Phone anything you want and it still has all of the same problems with lack of apps, lack of widespread handset maker support, etc…

I don't think that the desktop brand is a negative for the phone.

They made compromises to the desktop UI to meet mobile demands in the name of 'convergence' -- justifying the use of the same brand... but as a result, UI experience has suffered on both form factors.

Re: Ubuntu Edge will miss $32M crowdfunding target

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I get the impression (I am just speculating) that Canonical is running an enormous focus group. Whether they hit 32m or just 16m, they have evidence for the device manufacturers that there is a demand for a convergent and powerful phone running an open OS.

Surely missing the target would demonstrate a lack of demand? It's pretty hard to spin "We couldn't even get 30,000 contributers" asz success. Especially given the strong existing brand, the news coverage, etc.
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