he's making a list,
checking it twice;
gonna find out who's
naughty and nice...
NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
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Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#32They throw out the claim (~4:10) the facility in utah could store "about 100 years of the world's communications". Has anyone done the math? How much could that facility store. If they were indeed recording word-for-word content, how many days/months/years could they store?
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#33So it's now in the realm of maybe-to-probable that the NSA has every domestic phone call on tape as well as some non-trivial sized chunk of all emails sent? Plus for sure has all metadata they can get their hands on? Plus cable taps on most (all?) internet backbones?
Maybe SETI should try a SETI@NSA
Are you suggesting that NSA should wire-trap the aliens too? :)
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? A colleague of Tice's told him a few weeks ago that every domestic communication is being recorded. Tice is now a private citizen, and he has every right to tell us that colleague's name. But he won't, and I suspect that the reason is that his claim is fanciful.
Recent history tells us there's proof out there, and that it typically follows a denial by Obama or the intelligence communities.
I get your emotional position, but this is just some bad logic. "If the government denies it, it must be true" is not a useful tool. How about "recent history says that this kind of thing could potentially be true, and that the government wouldn't admit if it was."
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#35Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe SETI should try a SETI@NSA
Are you suggesting that NSA should wire-trap the aliens too? :)
Obviously we need to know where the eggs are getting laid.
I mean before we cure cancer, figure out how the brain works and solve inequality all the alien eggs must be found.
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#37They throw out the claim (~4:10) the facility in utah could store "about 100 years of the world's communications". Has anyone done the math? How much could that facility store. If they were indeed recording word-for-word content, how many days/months/years could they store?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/07/24/blueprint...
Very interesting. The tl;dr seems to be: nobody knows for sure, but yes... it could totally be used for full content storage for some length of time.
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#38he's making a list, checking it twice; gonna find out who's naughty and nice...
Pretty sure that's God.
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious about the storage media they might have... is it just plain old rotational harddrives? Who made them -- Seagate? Western Digital? It's curious that no word has come out from that front -- "wow, this customer is requesting a _LOT_ of storage devices... like, more storage space than what is available in the world". And really, because of this I think the idea that they might have some in-house innovation is…
Uncompressed, 1 hour of phone audio is only ~29MB (8KB/sec*3600s/h). Compressing it for storage can send that way down. Let's assume to 6MB. If every 300M Americans talked for an hour a day, that's only 2TB a day for call audio. Edit: That's only one-way, so double. But compression can eliminate most of that, as there's usually only audio on one side of a call at a time. Anyways, even if I'm right within a factor of…
Wouldn't the information be more useful in text form? Transcripts would take far less space and would probably be necessary for any sort of useful search. They might even call the transcript "meta-data".
Re: NSA Collects 'Word for Word' Every Domestic Communication, Says Former Analyst
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious about the storage media they might have... is it just plain old rotational harddrives? Who made them -- Seagate? Western Digital? It's curious that no word has come out from that front -- "wow, this customer is requesting a _LOT_ of storage devices... like, more storage space than what is available in the world". And really, because of this I think the idea that they might have some in-house innovation is…
Uncompressed, 1 hour of phone audio is only ~29MB (8KB/sec*3600s/h). Compressing it for storage can send that way down. Let's assume to 6MB. If every 300M Americans talked for an hour a day, that's only 2TB a day for call audio. Edit: That's only one-way, so double. But compression can eliminate most of that, as there's usually only audio on one side of a call at a time. Anyways, even if I'm right within a factor of…
You're off by three orders of magnitude.
6 MB * 300 million = 1716 TB