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Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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Re: Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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post #17

About the land access concern, in France we had the aerotrain which was developped as an alternative to high speed train but did not survive the conventional railroad lobbies. There is still 60 km of test track south of Paris. The track is 10 m above the ground and is built using pillars every 20 m. It has been there for more than 40 years for it's considered too expensive to dismantle for actual very limited annoyme…

link to google maps of a bit of the track (I think): goo.gl/uxGxUs

Re: Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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"It leaves when you arrive" This doesn't work for an electric aircraft, or many normal public transport methods as they are all focused on batching people up into large groups (planes, trains, etc). Also, Elon has called Hyperloop 'another type of transport', i.e. nothing like we already use, whereas I would say this idea is just an aircraft with a new type of launch system; not as different as Elon suggests it will…

> This doesn't work for an electric aircraft, or many normal public transport methods as they are all focused on batching people up into large groups (planes, trains, etc).

True, but as the batch size gets smaller, so does the interval between vehicles. "one every minute, on the minute" is not much different from "It leaves when you arrive". This may not work for aircraft, but it certainly would for automated light rail systems.

Re: Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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post #4

Elon Musk said it was nearly impossible to get injured in his system. Which means that any aircraft travel is out, because all it takes is an engine failure to kill everyone on board. The safety reason is a big reason why I'm going with the underground tubes between LA and SF.

I don't think it can be underground, since Musk said it would cost $6 billion to build. Also, the plan is to build something similar for east-west coast travel, and underground would be even less possible.

the time to travel between ny and sf can be the time it takes me to come to work. they'd make that 6 billion back in a month.

Re: Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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post #17

About the land access concern, in France we had the aerotrain which was developped as an alternative to high speed train but did not survive the conventional railroad lobbies. There is still 60 km of test track south of Paris. The track is 10 m above the ground and is built using pillars every 20 m. It has been there for more than 40 years for it's considered too expensive to dismantle for actual very limited annoyme…

Germany has something similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transrapid The Asian maglevs are german engineering.

Re: Hyperloop speculation – launch assist for electric aircraft

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post #24

Keeping a passenger aircraft at constant speed of 600 mph is not realistic with the current (or near-future) battery technology, even if the initial kinetic energy comes "for free".

May be it's a rocket. You just stand in a small rocket vertically, like those used in the military and cost about 3-4 million each. You get launched to 10-15 miles height making a gravity turn at some point. After that it takes a relatively small burn to secure a nice trajectory that lands you 500 miles away. I imagine it's a vertical pipe 1 mile high and you stay on your feet the whole journey with about 5g being accelerated in the pipe until you reach the proper delta-v. Then you land with parachute on cushions or grasshopper-style. Worst case may be an electric propeller.
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