Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
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Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#2How many startups does this put out of business?
This keeps happening repeatedly - so let there be no more startups offering missing features of EC2. Go back! Build something else! Amazon has made it clear that you should not build a general cloud offering on top of EC2 - it must be niche, or not an enhancement of their offering, or they will simply do the same thing and kill you. And I don't think its that they're copying anyone. They've given lots of notice. Its just that their product vision fits with most anyone's who looks at what EC2 is missing.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#3How many startups does this put out of business? This keeps happening repeatedly - so let there be no more startups offering missing features of EC2. Go back! Build something else! Amazon has made it clear that you should not build a general cloud offering on top of EC2 - it must be niche, or not an enhancement of their offering, or they will simply do the same thing and kill you. And I don't think its that they're c…
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Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#4How many startups does this put out of business? This keeps happening repeatedly - so let there be no more startups offering missing features of EC2. Go back! Build something else! Amazon has made it clear that you should not build a general cloud offering on top of EC2 - it must be niche, or not an enhancement of their offering, or they will simply do the same thing and kill you. And I don't think its that they're c…
You hit the nail on the head, except for the copying part. Amazon was already 1 - 2 years ahead of it's competition. This announcement extends that distance and puts a lot of pressure on the third-party commercial tools. There's still value to be had (like cross-vendor support) but that could wane as people realize many of the features they want are implemented in EC2 "out of the box".
Amazon is building an entirely new ecosystem and we'll start seeing news kinds of tools (commercial and open source) built in and around it.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#5How many startups does this put out of business? This keeps happening repeatedly - so let there be no more startups offering missing features of EC2. Go back! Build something else! Amazon has made it clear that you should not build a general cloud offering on top of EC2 - it must be niche, or not an enhancement of their offering, or they will simply do the same thing and kill you. And I don't think its that they're c…
A lot of those startups are offering a much easier starting point, though. They put a pretty face on what Amazon has provided. Building a scalable website infrastructure isn't as easy as a few clicks, even with these new features. There are lot of people who don't want to think about it and just start using EC2, knowing whatever's going on in the background is providing them adequate reliability.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#6It's not clear whether Auto Scaling can only be based on inputs from CloudWatch, or your own inputs as well. Anyone know?
Also, you better trust Amazon to fairly determine when to scale up... more instances == more profit for them.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#7How many startups does this put out of business? This keeps happening repeatedly - so let there be no more startups offering missing features of EC2. Go back! Build something else! Amazon has made it clear that you should not build a general cloud offering on top of EC2 - it must be niche, or not an enhancement of their offering, or they will simply do the same thing and kill you. And I don't think its that they're c…
Amazon keeps adding really great features to AWS, but the technology that makes companies like Heroku interesting is being able to use them without caring how any of it works.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#8amazons offering adds a pricing model to this space. if anything, i think amazons move into this space, although certainly anticipated, validates those that are also competing here. others who wish to compete know the price/value proposition they need to meet in order to have a chance.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#9It's not clear whether Auto Scaling can only be based on inputs from CloudWatch, or your own inputs as well. Anyone know? Also, you better trust Amazon to fairly determine when to scale up... more instances == more profit for them.
According to the documentation, Auto Scaling is based on input from CloudWatch (see the dimensions parameter):
http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AutoScaling/latest/Develop...
re: trusting Amazon to scale, as they say in the release notes, they provide a detailed audit of scaling activity. After all the work Amazon has done to help their customers, I doubt they're interested in grabbing a little cash from inappropriate scaling.
Re: Amazon EC2 gets statistics, auto scaling and elastic load balancing
#10It's not clear whether Auto Scaling can only be based on inputs from CloudWatch, or your own inputs as well. Anyone know? Also, you better trust Amazon to fairly determine when to scale up... more instances == more profit for them.
The day someone comes up with solid evidence that they are using the system to skim money off unsuspecting customers is Amazon's last day as a hosting company.
Trust of a web host is of paramount importance. I know a lot of people who stuck with more expensive hosts just because they trust them and have a good working relationship with them.