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Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by antihero » Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 10:44 PM UTC

teamgb wrote: post #138

archivator wrote: post #41

Hi all. Delyan here. I'm kinda bummed I didn't submit this myself. I would've loved to cash in on those most precious of internet points. Oh, well. :) To address the question of discussing this publicly: I don't think I'm doing them any favours right now. I'd like to think that the developer crowd (especially the one at HN) is not as easily swayed by competitions, challenges and brands as to forget sleazy behaviour l…

Fascinating that this story has far more upvotes and comments than another similar story, yet both boil down to essentially the same thing: money buys influence. "Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users" vs "NSA pays £100m in secret funding for GCHQ" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6140881

Think about it this way - capitalism is a positive feedback system, and thus unstable.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by derleth » Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 11:51 PM UTC

roc wrote: post #134

eksith wrote: post #55

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But among which parties? Blind allegiance and antipathy tend to bump into things frequently. The noise they cause makes them easy to spot. There's noise in any community, but if it's the same alley cats, you learn to ignore them. I always scroll below to the end of the threads (one of the reasons I never seem to get anything done after landing on HN) to see what I've missed. The populist upvotes aren't always the mos…

So you've gone from "that's not how things work here" to "if you ignore the bulk of what goes on here, you probably won't see it" ?

You're proving his point, you know.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by Khaine » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 12:07 AM UTC

Stay classy Samsung

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by dnautics » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 1:07 AM UTC

antihero wrote: post #141

teamgb wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fascinating that this story has far more upvotes and comments than another similar story, yet both boil down to essentially the same thing: money buys influence. "Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users" vs "NSA pays £100m in secret funding for GCHQ" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6140881

Think about it this way - capitalism is a positive feedback system, and thus unstable.

one of these two is not free-market capitalism, as it gets its funds not by selling a service...

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by mathattack » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 1:14 AM UTC

josephagoss wrote: post #56

mathattack wrote: post #22

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So is it just a matter of price? At which price would it be ok?

500BTC is my price.

I dare say you are simultaneously too cheap and too expensive!

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by eonil » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 1:42 AM UTC

gohrt wrote: post #136

eridius wrote: post #133

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Apple simply does not engage in anything even remotely resembling astroturfing. The simplest reason is that they don't need to, but the more accurate reason is that it's not in the company culture to do things like that. As a semi-related example, I'm sure you're familiar with product placement in TV shows and movies. Most product placement is done because the company paid for it to be there (for example, all of the…

Apple has a team dedicated to making sure their products are easy to access and deploy in a movie/TV, and a preferred choice. They don't pay cash, but they absolutely push their products into movies/TV.

The point is they're not paying. Showmakers want them.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by josephagoss » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 1:49 AM UTC

mathattack wrote: post #145

josephagoss wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

500BTC is my price.

I dare say you are simultaneously too cheap and too expensive!

Bitcoin, just like a quantum bit, in all states at the same time!

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by eonil » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 1:50 AM UTC

No surprise for Samsung is doing this. Abusing community by ad is the only their real professional at.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by eonil » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 2:46 AM UTC

buro9 wrote: post #34

The agency (FLLU) seem really small. Too small in fact, because most companies would engage a substantially larger firm and have account managers and would handle all of this stuff coherently from one place rather than use potentially hundreds of firms this size (3 people). Before everyone jumps to conclusions... could it not be the case that someone with just a very small bit of budget said "Wouldn't it be great if.…

(1) Size of company doesn't justify abusing and lie. (2) Hiring external agent doesn't clean client's purpose. (3) No big Korean company hires unknown firm.

So they knew who they're, what they do and how they do before hiring them. Do you think this is one time mistake, not the daily work of the firm?

When I heard this news, I didn't surprise because this is what Samsung does daily basis in Korea. But it was surprise that there's a person who can imagine this happen by mistake.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by eonil » Fri, Aug 02, 2013, 2:57 AM UTC

cruise02 wrote: post #42

They could have just bought some ads on Stack Overflow. From the Help Center: > If a large percentage of your posts include a mention of your product or website, you're probably here for the wrong reasons. Our advertising rates are quite reasonable; contact our ad sales team for details. We also offer free community promotion ads for open source projects and non-profit organizations. http://stackoverflow.com/help/beh…

And now you should know the price was not the issue.