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Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by justplay »

archivator wrote: post #41

Hi all. Delyan here. I'm kinda bummed I didn't submit this myself. I would've loved to cash in on those most precious of internet points. Oh, well. :) To address the question of discussing this publicly: I don't think I'm doing them any favours right now. I'd like to think that the developer crowd (especially the one at HN) is not as easily swayed by competitions, challenges and brands as to forget sleazy behaviour l…

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Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by MaysonL »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #108
ebbv wrote: post #43

Anyone who finds this shocking, I have news for you; every large company has been and is doing this type of astroturfing all over the internet for well over a decade now. I guess it can be surprising when you get asked to participate in it directly, but every type of site that's driven by "the public" (Slashdot, Digg, reddit, Twitter, Stack Overflow, etc.) is going to be a target for this type of activity. It's usual…

Except those sites are driven by votes and comments float to the top via lots of anonymous voting. Which is both a boon and a bane. It helps drown out the crap but also helps to promote idiotic groupthink and censor dissent.

Which means that combatting voting rings and astrovoting is an ever-present challenge if a site wants to remain clean.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by darkchasma »

snom380 wrote: post #120
darkchasma wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't write favorably about Apple, then they don't invite you to the press releases. So their hands are no cleaner, just far more transparent and public.

That's just silly. Pretty much the whole tech press are critical if Apple and still gets invited. The ones that don't get invited are those that buys stolen goods to be able to show off unannounced products.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/apple-prs-dirty-little-secre... Leo Laporte and several of the tech journalists on the TWiT network talk about it as well. I've actually heard this so frequently, I just thought it was common knowledge.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by snom380 »

rsynnott wrote: post #106
ksec wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sorry if this comment spark off any other pointless debate and argument or offended any Apple Fan boys or Samsung Fan boys. But the truth is, pretty much every company does this.. except Apple. Ans Samsung are at the top of this game. They are number 1 in spending on advertising and they spend double the advertising budget compared to 2nd in place. ( And their Rate are pretty awesome too compared to others ) You…

Samsung _advertise_ a lot. That doesn't mean you'd expect them to astroturf; it's an illicit practice in many countries.

Based on previous cases, it's not surprising: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/04/samsung-taiwan-market...

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by jerf »

vectorpush wrote: post #111
ksec wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sorry if this comment spark off any other pointless debate and argument or offended any Apple Fan boys or Samsung Fan boys. But the truth is, pretty much every company does this.. except Apple. Ans Samsung are at the top of this game. They are number 1 in spending on advertising and they spend double the advertising budget compared to 2nd in place. ( And their Rate are pretty awesome too compared to others ) You…

But the truth is, pretty much every company does this.. except Apple. Any evidence or even subjective reasoning why I'd believe Apple is any different from any other company? In the absence of evidence I wouldn't accuse Apple of anything but only a fool would give Apple a pass on something that "every company [supposedly] does". Lots of bashing and irresponsible reporting while bending the truth on Apple. Coincidence…

"Apple never trashes the competition, that's above them."

I'm a Mac, I'm a PC? Classy, well-done trashing, sure, but straight up naming-names trashing it was.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by chrischen »

darkchasma wrote: post #123
snom380 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just silly. Pretty much the whole tech press are critical if Apple and still gets invited. The ones that don't get invited are those that buys stolen goods to be able to show off unannounced products.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/apple-prs-dirty-little-secre... Leo Laporte and several of the tech journalists on the TWiT network talk about it as well. I've actually heard this so frequently, I just thought it was common knowledge.

Honestly that guy was not convincing at all. He pointed out how some journalists refused his request to ask apple about the address uploading issue and then completely speculated on the reasons why... then went on to makeup some BS reason as to why AllThingsD can criticize apple while still remaining in contact with him. After being in litigation with apple, this guy is clearly biased. If you read the comments people point out his agenda.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by iyulaev »

jaydles wrote: post #114

I work at Stack Exchange, and contacted Samsung as soon as this was brought to our attention last night. 1. The company engaging in these tactics was not hired by Samsung; they appear to have been sub-contracted for some promotion by the company they did hire. Now, it's obviously possible that they turned a blind eye, or don't want to know what methods are used, but in fairness, there's no evidence that they had any…

Big company decides to pull a grassroots-focused marketing campaign. Picks an inappropriate venue. Backs off.

Is fb, for example, a more appropriate venue, selling likes and all that? They explicitly allow sponsored posts that appear to have been made by friends. I think the marketing person figured that stack overflow was similar to fb for nerds. Whoops.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by yuhong »

vectorpush wrote: post #111
ksec wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sorry if this comment spark off any other pointless debate and argument or offended any Apple Fan boys or Samsung Fan boys. But the truth is, pretty much every company does this.. except Apple. Ans Samsung are at the top of this game. They are number 1 in spending on advertising and they spend double the advertising budget compared to 2nd in place. ( And their Rate are pretty awesome too compared to others ) You…

But the truth is, pretty much every company does this.. except Apple. Any evidence or even subjective reasoning why I'd believe Apple is any different from any other company? In the absence of evidence I wouldn't accuse Apple of anything but only a fool would give Apple a pass on something that "every company [supposedly] does". Lots of bashing and irresponsible reporting while bending the truth on Apple. Coincidence…

Any evidence or even subjective reasoning why I'd believe Apple is any different from any other company? In the absence of evidence I wouldn't accuse Apple of anything but only a fool would give Apple a pass on something that "every company [supposedly] does".

Except in this case I don't think this claim was true at all.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by swang »

snom380 wrote: post #120
darkchasma wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't write favorably about Apple, then they don't invite you to the press releases. So their hands are no cleaner, just far more transparent and public.

That's just silly. Pretty much the whole tech press are critical if Apple and still gets invited. The ones that don't get invited are those that buys stolen goods to be able to show off unannounced products.

1. It's not silly to think that. See: Game Industry and Game Blogs.

2. You rarely hear about journalists getting blacklisted from events because a. the general public rarely cares or b. if they do they call the journalist, a 'whiner'.

Re: Samsung agency is buying off StackOverflow users

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Post by archivator »

justplay wrote: post #121
archivator wrote: post #41

Hi all. Delyan here. I'm kinda bummed I didn't submit this myself. I would've loved to cash in on those most precious of internet points. Oh, well. :) To address the question of discussing this publicly: I don't think I'm doing them any favours right now. I'd like to think that the developer crowd (especially the one at HN) is not as easily swayed by competitions, challenges and brands as to forget sleazy behaviour l…

Your website is working fast and up,which host you use? It scaled up brilliantly.

I'd love to say it's my amazing architecture and optimizations skills. But it's not. It's just a static blog, generated with Ruhoh (http://ruhoh.com/) and nginx. I'm on Webfaction's cheapest plan, on the Amsterdam servers.
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