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XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by aroman »

shirro wrote: post #35

You have to admit these guys are working on some cool problems. If you don't have a problem with the legality of it or potential for misuse it looks like a really interesting place to work.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not condoning their actions, but in case you need a more clear example of where this paradigm breaks down:

IBM & Nazi Germany, Nazi Germany in general, etc. Ironically, sillicon valley came into existence building military SIGINT/ELINT systems for the cold war.[0]

[0] www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFSPHfZQpIQ

Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by alan_cx »

shirro wrote: post #35

You have to admit these guys are working on some cool problems. If you don't have a problem with the legality of it or potential for misuse it looks like a really interesting place to work.

As were certain medical facilities in WW2.

Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by haakon »

jstalin wrote: post #30

Slide 6 of the presentation clearly shows that pretty much every government is in on the program, with heavy concentration in western Europe. One question, how did the dot in China get there? http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa...

And what about all the dots along Antarctica?

Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by jstalin »

haakon wrote: post #84
jstalin wrote: post #30

Slide 6 of the presentation clearly shows that pretty much every government is in on the program, with heavy concentration in western Europe. One question, how did the dot in China get there? http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa...

And what about all the dots along Antarctica?

The only thing I can think of is satellites?

Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by lifeformed »

jstalin wrote: post #30

Slide 6 of the presentation clearly shows that pretty much every government is in on the program, with heavy concentration in western Europe. One question, how did the dot in China get there? http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa...

Not to mention all those Antarcticans!

Re: XKeyscore: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'

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Post by griffordson »

haakon wrote: post #62
hga wrote: post #4

This bit both somewhat limits the impact and makes Greenwald et. al.'s claims that most everything is being Hoovered up a lot more credible: " The XKeyscore system is continuously collecting so much internet data that it can be stored only for short periods of time. Content remains on the system for only three to five days, while metadata is stored for 30 days. One document explains: "At some sites, the amount of dat…

Notice that the presentation is from 2008 - a lot changes in five years.

One such change is coming/has come online in Utah.

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Post by duncans »

eksith wrote: post #10

That UI looks awfully similar to a theme I've seen used in SharePoint Portal Server. I hope that's not what they use for the front end, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Pretty sure it isn't - some of it looks like old ExtJS if anything.

The more worrying thing is that they're still apparently using IE6. [EDIT: OK the presentation is from 2008 but still!]

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