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Post by rdouble » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:53 PM UTC

cpursley wrote: post #102

mahmud wrote: post #13

Escape the country. Going into a foreign embassy is not gonna do you any good. "The Free World" spies on, and jails its own people, and it will not risk another Mohammad cartoongate helping you. So don't even think about requesting asylum at an embassy. Sell all you own and head to the nearest border/coastal town. Pay off smugglers or fishermen and get the fuck out.

Agreed. You need to leave. Now. Sell your stuff, get currency, use your international connections. It's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done, but liberty is the most important. Who knows what will happen in prison and for how long they will detain you. Also, depending on how technically competent your government is, you need to get all your services offshore now: Wuala for storage (like dropbox - based in S…

Are you in Singapore? This doesn't make sense - you say you live in a Muslim country? I know Singapore is socially strict, but I thought it was secular.

Singapore is big on social harmony. There are laws against offending other cultures and anything considered pornography is illegal. But I think he's in trouble in Malaysia.

Re: undefined

#142

Post by ckozlowski » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

BWStearns wrote: post #134

3a0e8ff4e557 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then?

Also depending on the country you're in, keep in mind that you might be marked as suspicious for visiting a foreign embassy. Perhaps send a friend or someone to do the advice getting and only go when you have solid advice from a professional diplomat or embassy staffer that recommends that you do so.

Good advice.

Re: undefined

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Post by davidcollantes » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

Can someone run the SaaS startup for him while --and if-- he is in jail?

Re: undefined

#144

Post by bwb » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #96

DanBC wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a passport to leave a country. You need a passport to get into a country. People who enter a country illegally and then claim asylum status are unlikely to be in any position to keep their business running.

How hard is it to get a fake-passport and sneak through the airport?

Very hard.

You could go to the USA, Canada, or EU country embassy and see if they can help you with asylum etc.

I would recommend Canada.

Re: undefined

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Post by fnordfnordfnord » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:55 PM UTC

regularguy wrote: post #34

I'm assuming you are this guy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/alvin-and-vivian-ja... What you did was quite offensive, for Muslims and non-Muslims. If you are that person, it may difficult to find someone you can trust enough to take over the SaaS startup whilst you are away. Good luck.

Would you mind explaining why a non-Muslim should/would be offended by that?

Re: undefined

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Post by masukomi » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:56 PM UTC

My thought is to put together a very detailed set of instructions including a screencast. Then contact one of the many companies that offers virtual personal assistants. Tell them you need someone for a couple hours a week with whatever level of technical knowledge they'd need to be able to follow your instructions.

Then start using them right away (before being interred) so that you can see if you've gotten a person who understands the task and can do it well, or if you need to have them find someone else to do it.

It should be cheap and easy.

Alternately, you could just sell the business and start a new one when you get out. I'm sure there are many folks here, myself included who would be willing to consider buying a self-sufficient SaaS business.

Re: undefined

#147

Post by drakeandrews » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:56 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #96

DanBC wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a passport to leave a country. You need a passport to get into a country. People who enter a country illegally and then claim asylum status are unlikely to be in any position to keep their business running.

How hard is it to get a fake-passport and sneak through the airport?

Assuming you have the original, non-biometric passport, access to materials and suitable printers, plotters etc and a handful of other passports of the appropriate nationality people don't mind being "recycled", quite a while.

Re: undefined

#148

Post by davidcollantes » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:57 PM UTC

shubb wrote: post #24

Depending on how long you are likely to go away, it's probably best do just do the time. Escaping, as others suggested, would mean leaving your life behind, likely living as an illegal elsewhere (without the ability to open a bank account or own a business). If it's probably just a couple of years, it's probably best to sit it out, and resume your life after. You need to hook up with someone you really trust, and giv…

I disagree. I say run, leave that country. I once did the same. Why would he like to live in a country governed by religion to the point that a secular photo gets you to jail?

Run, start your life somewhere else. That is my advise.

Re: undefined

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Post by jeswin » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:59 PM UTC

mnazim wrote: post #78

"posted religiously-insensitive photograph" is a very vague statement. Many questions come to mind. - What is the nature of photographs? - Were you exposing some kind the truth and got caught up by legal loopholes or an inherently unjust law in your country? - Did you knowingly break a law which has existed in your country for a long time? - Does the nature of your photographs insults someone's faith and or religion…

It might be this one: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1251401/thumbs/o-ALVIN-AND-VIVIAN-...

Re: undefined

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Post by cpursley » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 1:59 PM UTC

rdouble wrote: post #141

cpursley wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. You need to leave. Now. Sell your stuff, get currency, use your international connections. It's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done, but liberty is the most important. Who knows what will happen in prison and for how long they will detain you. Also, depending on how technically competent your government is, you need to get all your services offshore now: Wuala for storage (like dropbox - based in S…

Are you in Singapore? This doesn't make sense - you say you live in a Muslim country? I know Singapore is socially strict, but I thought it was secular. Singapore is big on social harmony. There are laws against offending other cultures and anything considered pornography is illegal. But I think he's in trouble in Malaysia.

Ok, that's sort-of what I was thinking.