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The other lesson is we can all trust the USA to not kill a person (indirectly and unwillingly but still dead non the less) when people commit minor crimes, and don't even cause significant financial losses.
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What have I said that suggests "MIT is not to blame for very much at all"? My comments have dealt with factual issues; I don't see where I advanced any opinions on MIT's deserved level of blame. The MIT report lays out facts (and not conclusions or judgements) for the express purpose of informing the debate. Many here would probably be interested in its contents if they weren't so busy expressing opinions about it. I…
> What have I said that suggests "MIT is not to blame for very much at all"? My comments have dealt with factual issues; I don't see where I advanced any opinions on MIT's deserved level of blame. My comment should have been a question, let me put it explicitly: What is your personal opinion on MIT's deserved level of blame?
In closing, our review can suggest this lesson: MIT is respected for world-class work in information technology, for promoting open access to online information, and for dealing wisely with the risks of computer abuse. The world looks to MIT to be at the forefront of these areas. Looking back on the Aaron Swartz case, the world didn’t see leadership. As one person involved in the decisions put it: “MIT didn’t do anything wrong; but we didn’t do ourselves proud.”
Moral of the story DO NOT SUE YOUR STUDENTS. For crying out lout TALK with them first. The other lesson is we can all trust the USA to not kill a person (indirectly and unwillingly but still dead non the less) when people commit minor crimes, and don't even cause significant financial losses.
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>Putting him behind bars for downloading bits is ludicrous Unless it's your data that's being downloaded unlawfully, right?
Even then. In fact, especially then. I wouldn't be able to stomach taking away even one month of someone's life for words that I wrote. I'm writing a book. I plan on putting it on piratebay myself. I'll have an option for people to pay me if they so choose.
Moral of the story DO NOT SUE YOUR STUDENTS. For crying out lout TALK with them first. The other lesson is we can all trust the USA to not kill a person (indirectly and unwillingly but still dead non the less) when people commit minor crimes, and don't even cause significant financial losses.
That's a curious lesson to learn seeing as Aaron Swartz was not a student at MIT.
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First you shouldn't have to hide under a new throw away account. Second, since MIT initiated the proceedings I wouldn't call that neutral either.
since MIT initiated the proceedings I wouldn't call that neutral either. MIT initiated a process to find out who the laptop they found belonged to. MIT did not initiate any legal proceedings, and did not tell anyone that they were in favor of doing so.
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since MIT initiated the proceedings I wouldn't call that neutral either. MIT initiated a process to find out who the laptop they found belonged to. MIT did not initiate any legal proceedings, and did not tell anyone that they were in favor of doing so.
Combined with Jstor's actions, MIT could have stopped this circus at anytime. They didn't.
The report gives plenty of evidence that doesn't support that contention. It looks to me like the prosecution didn't care what MIT or JSTOR thought.
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Combined with Jstor's actions, MIT could have stopped this circus at anytime. They didn't.
MIT could have stopped this circus at anytime. The report gives plenty of evidence that doesn't support that contention. It looks to me like the prosecution didn't care what MIT or JSTOR thought.
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MIT could have stopped this circus at anytime. The report gives plenty of evidence that doesn't support that contention. It looks to me like the prosecution didn't care what MIT or JSTOR thought.
Yes but it would probably weaken the prosecution's case at the very least.
I can see one thing that would have weakened the prosecution's case: if MIT had been able to say definitely that Swartz's access to the MIT network was authorized. However, I'm not sure MIT could have said that definitely.