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Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by damoncali »

girvo wrote: post #32

Man, I feel weird. I used BS2 temporarily, but then stripped it out for a straight reset and grid system. Old habits die hard, I guess, and what I Want from a UI doesn't always match Bootstraps ideas... I'll give this another shot for my startup prototype, but I have a feeling the same will happen. Is anyone else like that, or am I now old-school at the ripe age of 22?

I have no use for it myself. If I need a simple Bootstrap design, I can just copy some of the elements in plain old CSS and have a much simpler setup. If I need something complicated, Bootstrap is limiting - you end up rewriting it all anyhow.

And the idea of keeping up with Bootstrap versions is just plain crazy to me.

To each his own, I suppose.

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by jamieomatthews »

girvo wrote: post #34
jvzr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you aren't the target audience? Maybe you need something else entirely?

Possibly, but others I respect use it for the same things I tried too. Possibly an issue with me, rather than the framework, of course.

I agree that it can bloat, and often customizing components takes as long as simply starting from scratch. However, I really like LESS, and bootstrap is full of some great less utilities. Customizing bootstraps less is a perfect example of why I love it, and how it saves me time

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by moogleii »

girvo wrote: post #32

Man, I feel weird. I used BS2 temporarily, but then stripped it out for a straight reset and grid system. Old habits die hard, I guess, and what I Want from a UI doesn't always match Bootstraps ideas... I'll give this another shot for my startup prototype, but I have a feeling the same will happen. Is anyone else like that, or am I now old-school at the ripe age of 22?

Maybe Foundation would suit you better. I heard it's a bit more lightweight than BS.

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by chuckd1356 »

girvo wrote: post #32

Man, I feel weird. I used BS2 temporarily, but then stripped it out for a straight reset and grid system. Old habits die hard, I guess, and what I Want from a UI doesn't always match Bootstraps ideas... I'll give this another shot for my startup prototype, but I have a feeling the same will happen. Is anyone else like that, or am I now old-school at the ripe age of 22?

I used it at my startup, but there's absolutely no reason for me to upgrade to BS3. I think bootstrap is great for giving people a quick framework to build off of, when writing up a grid system doesn't make sense. For our next major release, I think we're going to migrate away from BS entirely. I'd rather control it all in house than play catchup with their releases. For me, it's not even the UI but the ability to control exactly what we're doing.

Re: Bootstrap 3

#45

Post by steveklabnik »

jvzr wrote: post #22
weego wrote: post #13

Meh, at some point they should start to realise that you can't change everything every release and expect everyone to keep up. It feels like it's becoming more of a chore than the real initial win it was able to deliver on first release.

You don't need to stay up to date with this kind of frameworks. It isn't like every update has security fixes. The company I work for uses several versions of Bootstrap 2 and we have no issue dealing with it. Newer projects will use BS3, but we don't need nor feel the need to update every project.

There is an image gallery plugin that I use that secretly downloads its own latest version of bootstrap, which can conflict with the one you have loaded, breaking everything :(

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by nahname »

moogleii wrote: post #43
girvo wrote: post #32

Man, I feel weird. I used BS2 temporarily, but then stripped it out for a straight reset and grid system. Old habits die hard, I guess, and what I Want from a UI doesn't always match Bootstraps ideas... I'll give this another shot for my startup prototype, but I have a feeling the same will happen. Is anyone else like that, or am I now old-school at the ripe age of 22?

Maybe Foundation would suit you better. I heard it's a bit more lightweight than BS.

I checked it out for that reason. Then I found a number of social images and began wondering why a lightweight CSS framework needed images for facebook, twitter, etc...

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by nahname »

steveklabnik wrote: post #45
jvzr wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need to stay up to date with this kind of frameworks. It isn't like every update has security fixes. The company I work for uses several versions of Bootstrap 2 and we have no issue dealing with it. Newer projects will use BS3, but we don't need nor feel the need to update every project.

There is an image gallery plugin that I use that secretly downloads its own latest version of bootstrap, which can conflict with the one you have loaded, breaking everything :(

It must be a very good library to be chosen in spite of that behaviour.

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by jaredmcateer »

nahname wrote: post #46
moogleii wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Foundation would suit you better. I heard it's a bit more lightweight than BS.

I checked it out for that reason. Then I found a number of social images and began wondering why a lightweight CSS framework needed images for facebook, twitter, etc...

You mean the Social Icons in the Add-ons section? You don't need to include those, in fact, I believe they are opt-in, not opt-out.

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by amouat »

xtrumanx wrote: post #19

I don't think I get the new grid system. .col-12 .col-lg-8 What's going on here? If I were to guess, I'm assuming it's going to be 12 columns if its a mobile, 8 if a tablet or a desktop. In what situation would that be useful? It looks like you'd end up with some pretty complicated mark-up quickly like that.

Took me a minute to figure it all out. If you're using chrome, you can change your user agent to mimic various viewports and the examples become a lot clearer - hit ctrl-shift-i then push the cog in the bottom right and select overrides.

Re: Bootstrap 3

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Post by olso4052 »

jvzr wrote: post #25
xtrumanx wrote: post #19

I don't think I get the new grid system. .col-12 .col-lg-8 What's going on here? If I were to guess, I'm assuming it's going to be 12 columns if its a mobile, 8 if a tablet or a desktop. In what situation would that be useful? It looks like you'd end up with some pretty complicated mark-up quickly like that.

Exactly that. It's useful if you want that particular content to span the whole width on mobile, but only 60% of the width on desktop (and make room for a sidebar, for instance). |----col1------| on mobile |----col2------| |--col1--||col2| on desktop Handy.

Ya, I actually had that problem with BS2 when viewing it mobile. I ended up redesigning the site anyway, but this may be a big plus for Bootstrap. As others have said, a lot of times it's simpler to just build everything yourself and grab some CSS or whatever from Bootstrap, but when it comes to mobile viewing, Bootstrap is going to save a ton of time (at least for me).
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