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50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by bankIsSketch »

Tichy wrote: post #107
bankIsSketch wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is - there ARE plenty of scientists who disagree; they are just shunned by the rest of the academic circle-jerk for not following the wagon. So you, as a potentially scientifically-literate individual, are the victim of journal bias. Evolution is a _theory_ that is heavily debated- the cambrian explosion is one such debate that specifically has evidence against what your comment is. Too lazy to read? Watch…

Science isn't democracy, things are not true or untrue depending on how many people beliieve them. You can't vote gravity away, for example.

Journal bias circle-jerking can 'vote' science away. Watch this TED talk about how journal bias is destroying the SCIENCE of medicine (Doctors don't know about the Drugs They Prescribe): http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_what_doctors_don_t_kno...

Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by justinpombrio »

boneheadmed wrote: post #97
sandman223 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, the molecular/genetic evidence for common descent is pretty unassailable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_(human)

Examining the Earth, stars including the sun, living organisms and all that there is in front of us, makes it plainly known that there is a Creator.

A large portion of the population would kindly disagree :-)

Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by ghsalazar »

boneheadmed wrote: post #97
sandman223 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, the molecular/genetic evidence for common descent is pretty unassailable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_(human)

Examining the Earth, stars including the sun, living organisms and all that there is in front of us, makes it plainly known that there is a Creator.

Again, bring your reproducible facts. You're speaking out of faith. The test of knowledge is the experiment (Feynman), and yes you can prove evolution through experiments.

Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by DanielStraight »

driverdan wrote: post #16

When your religious views conflict with reality it's time to re-evaluate your religious views.

The entire point of religious views is to provide another way of understanding reality.

You presumably believe that science alone can explain reality. And that's fine. But many people don't, and I'm not just talking about the traditionally religious.

Scientifically, the "love" we have for our children is simply a genetically-programmed strategy for best ensuring that our genes are passed to future generations. It has no meaning.

In fact, scientifically, nothing has any meaning. Whether we live or die makes no difference at all, and when someone kills another, the only reason it's "wrong" is because society is trying to preserve itself so that individuals can pass on their genes to the next generation.

Again, if you're OK with this, that's fine. I'm not going to try to make you change your mind. But hopefully you can understand why others, many others, inform their view of reality with sources other than science.

Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by kjackson2012 »

prawn wrote: post #70
kjackson2012 wrote: post #40

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The theory that dinosaurs died due to a meteor is already outdated.

Is it? Are you being pedantic about the term "meteor" or is consensus behind something other than a collision? Asking honestly and aware that Wikipedia isn't always going to be correct. From Wikipedia: "It is generally believed that the K-Pg extinction was triggered by a massive comet/asteroid impact and its catastrophic effects on the global environment, including a lingering impact winter..." Same page then suggest…

You probably won't read this, but:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/animal_fore...

It's not enough that an asteroid hit the Earth, but it's such a simple theory that everyone can remember, it has been popularized by everyone.

Re: 50% of South Korean biology teachers do not accept evolution

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Post by prawn »

kjackson2012 wrote: post #116
prawn wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Are you being pedantic about the term "meteor" or is consensus behind something other than a collision? Asking honestly and aware that Wikipedia isn't always going to be correct. From Wikipedia: "It is generally believed that the K-Pg extinction was triggered by a massive comet/asteroid impact and its catastrophic effects on the global environment, including a lingering impact winter..." Same page then suggest…

You probably won't read this, but: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/animal_fore... It's not enough that an asteroid hit the Earth, but it's such a simple theory that everyone can remember, it has been popularized by everyone.

I thought it was a given (for anyone keen to read more than a headline) that the impact implied a long period of changes and involved more than just the strike itself?

I did assume however that volcanic activity could've been as a result of the impact.

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