The modal is still not responsive. I've been using http://jschr.github.io/bootstrap-modal/ and am kind of disappointed that the new version isn't improving existing widgets like this.
I second this.
Bootstrap 3 RC1
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Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1
#102Well just use xtyle instead: http://xtyle.xchema.com
It's smaller and uses CSS property names as class names. You know CSS you know how to use it.
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#103I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend. My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on. What do testing and studies show about this?
I think it is the right direction. You can add bezels, shadows and more, anyways.
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#104I find it funny that their examples of grids don't line up on the right side.
It totally speaks to my experience with their grids.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you do have the liberty to add your non-flat styles as you wish... And: Bootstrap is not intended to be used "as is" in every case. It's supposed to give you an quick start, something you can extend and customize as you see fit. It does a terrific job at that.
One of the advantages of having very non-technical customers, is that they could not care less that "OMG, it's stock bootstrap!". They just like that the site looks decent, and it certainly looks better than if I did everything myself. Having a good enough default means I can spend my time improving the product, rather than worrying about something that neither the customers nor I care much about as long as it's good…
Well, nobody's going to force you to upgrade either. The 2.* code will still work just fine.
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#106I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend. My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on. What do testing and studies show about this?
Bootstrap is a, well, bootstrap. You're supposed to build upon it, so having a "flat" base makes sense since it's less hassle to add CSS properties (and give your buttons some bevels) than override existing ones.
While it might not be much "hassle" in terms of adding some code, the part I appreciate most about bootstrap is that it's put together by competent designers and looks good as a whole. Once I start f'ing around with individual bits and pieces, my guess is that things are going to go to hell in a handbasket in short order, which sort of defeats the purpose of the whole thing in the first place.
Also, my guess is that the flat base is there because that's what's cool these days. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing: for a lot of people, having something that looks modern and recent is pretty important too. Just that I'm worried about it, a little bit.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the advantages of having very non-technical customers, is that they could not care less that "OMG, it's stock bootstrap!". They just like that the site looks decent, and it certainly looks better than if I did everything myself. Having a good enough default means I can spend my time improving the product, rather than worrying about something that neither the customers nor I care much about as long as it's good…
Well, nobody's going to force you to upgrade either. The 2.* code will still work just fine.
No, but the Bootstrap guys are very good with CSS and HTML, and there are probably lots of other benefits to upgrading once you look beyond the flat design stuff. Things that I would be very happy to have!
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bootstrap is a, well, bootstrap. You're supposed to build upon it, so having a "flat" base makes sense since it's less hassle to add CSS properties (and give your buttons some bevels) than override existing ones.
While it might not be much "hassle" in terms of adding some code, the part I appreciate most about bootstrap is that it's put together by competent designers and looks good as a whole. Once I start f'ing around with individual bits and pieces, my guess is that things are going to go to hell in a handbasket in short order, which sort of defeats the purpose of the whole thing in the first place. Also, my guess is that…
You should never rely on the styling for a public facing website. Sure, if you're building a side projects or perhaps even an MVP, go for it. However, if you're building a site to service a market, whether it be selling something, publishing something, etc. you should always go with a unique design.
Bootstrap is great for having some underlying architecture but the visual styles should rarely be used. Keeping the original bootstrap style says a few things about you and your product: You're either lazy, poor at design, or don't care enough to hire a competent designer.
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#109I'm launching a site in a few weeks which uses Bootstrap 2. Should I upgrade to Bootstrap 3 now or wait until the final version of 3 is released?
Bootstrap 3 is mobile compatible "out of box". but dropping of IE support can cause troubles on your side. you should use respond.js to use media-queries on IE8 and below. despite this, i'm using it since april and everything is ok.
Thanks, I started the change from 2 > 3 today and it hasn't been too painful. The main things were changing to the new grid system and searching the docs for some classes that had been renamed
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#110The modal is still not responsive. I've been using http://jschr.github.io/bootstrap-modal/ and am kind of disappointed that the new version isn't improving existing widgets like this.
Actually it is—it might behave perfectly right now, but the intent is that it is mobile-first and responsive like nearly every other component. If you're running into problems, let us know though via issues. <3