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Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#31

I'm launching a site in a few weeks which uses Bootstrap 2. Should I upgrade to Bootstrap 3 now or wait until the final version of 3 is released?

Bootstrap 3 is mobile compatible "out of box". but dropping of IE support can cause troubles on your side. you should use respond.js to use media-queries on IE8 and below. despite this, i'm using it since april and everything is ok.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#32

Cue a dozen comments about flat buttons. This looks like a nice set of changes for Bootstrap. I'm not sure how I feel about the grid class name changes, but then again, I went all-in on Foundation a few months back, so it doesn't affect me one way or another. I'm sure mdo and fat have excellent reasons for using Less instead of Sass, but I'm a Rails user and I like Sass better to boot. Anyway, no matter, I'm glad to…

I've inherited a web application that's held together with invalid HTML and riddled with inline CSS. Got the green light to redo it all. Replacing all the markup has been on hold pending BS3 (the mobile-first aspect of BS3 seems a big win over BS2), but while waiting I've seen a lot of people talking about Zurb Foundation and its "superior" grid system. From a purely HTML5+CSS3 point of view, what do you think of BS…

bootstrap 3's grid system now uses percents instead of fixed pixels. also col-lg or col-sm classes can be used to design/show different content on different resolutions. my vote is on bootstrap.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#33
post #10

Do the Foundation developers always need to hijack posts regarding bootstrap? Please stop it, and just submit links to articles discussing why Foundation is better.

We at foundation really don't get any love here in HN, so this is our last resort.

Of course not. To manifest how I love foundation, I even used foundation4 for my graduation project.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#35

Cue a dozen comments about flat buttons. This looks like a nice set of changes for Bootstrap. I'm not sure how I feel about the grid class name changes, but then again, I went all-in on Foundation a few months back, so it doesn't affect me one way or another. I'm sure mdo and fat have excellent reasons for using Less instead of Sass, but I'm a Rails user and I like Sass better to boot. Anyway, no matter, I'm glad to…

I've inherited a web application that's held together with invalid HTML and riddled with inline CSS. Got the green light to redo it all. Replacing all the markup has been on hold pending BS3 (the mobile-first aspect of BS3 seems a big win over BS2), but while waiting I've seen a lot of people talking about Zurb Foundation and its "superior" grid system. From a purely HTML5+CSS3 point of view, what do you think of BS…

Responsive tables is a big plus for Zurb.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#36
I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend.

My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on.

What do testing and studies show about this?

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#37

Cue a dozen comments about flat buttons. This looks like a nice set of changes for Bootstrap. I'm not sure how I feel about the grid class name changes, but then again, I went all-in on Foundation a few months back, so it doesn't affect me one way or another. I'm sure mdo and fat have excellent reasons for using Less instead of Sass, but I'm a Rails user and I like Sass better to boot. Anyway, no matter, I'm glad to…

I prefer LESS over SASS, simply because of how often I use mixins and how nice ".border-radius(5px)" is compared to "@include border-radius(5px)". That being said, my current setup is Stylus+Nib. (And for the above examples, you'd just write "border-radius: 5px" and it takes care of everything. Much more flexible.)

there is such a thing as plain border-radius: 5px, you know?

I think mixin's are generally overused; having to maintain css as well as right it, I'm quite happy with a syntax that doesn't encourage their use. If you need em: fine, but the you won't care about @include vs. "." anyhow.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#38
post #36

I love bootstrap, but I'm completely unconvinced about the flat trend. My site, www.liberwriter.com is squarely aimed at non-technical people who are not really on top of the latest trends. I could very easily envision them having a higher cognitive load trying to figure out what is a button and what isn't and so on. What do testing and studies show about this?

Also affects technical people.

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#39
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people think Zurb's grid system is better? I don't remember it being any different from Bootstrap's grid system.

Zurbs' grid uses percentage widths for columns and is mobile-first - BS 3 now uses a similar system which makes the only really difference SASS/SCSS vs LESS if you just want the grid

IIRC, Boostrap 2 can use percentage widths too -- you need to use the "row-fluid" class (instead of just "row").

Re: Bootstrap 3 RC1

#40
So what exactly is the point of bootstrap? It includes an entirely pointless (and poorly made) grid system; an excessive (and unnecessary) css reset; complex & slow selectors, and lots of default styling you're probably going to replace anyhow.

If it were a bunch of separate modules you could individually include and use as a template for your own style, you could actually use the parts you need: as it is, I really don't understand the hype.

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