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Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by kalms »

mahmud wrote: post #7

Between this and both sides publicly announcing they're arming opposing sides of the Syrian conflict, I can't help but think the cold-war is making a comeback. I am not saying that Russia should betray Snowden's trust and hand him over. Just that the two countries should have the appropriate communication channels to sort this out, and not air to the media in PR stunts. Public diplomacy often leads to oneupmanship, a…

It's not a cold war per default, when a country refuse to do what the US demands. This is just a conflict of interest. Syria is in Russia's backyard, so of course they'll have opposing viewpoints.

Snowden and Wikileaks moved it into the public for a reason. Russia/US can't change that right now, so they have to play along, which seems like a good thing for Snowden/Wikileaks.

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by coldtea »

kalms wrote: post #11
mahmud wrote: post #7

Between this and both sides publicly announcing they're arming opposing sides of the Syrian conflict, I can't help but think the cold-war is making a comeback. I am not saying that Russia should betray Snowden's trust and hand him over. Just that the two countries should have the appropriate communication channels to sort this out, and not air to the media in PR stunts. Public diplomacy often leads to oneupmanship, a…

It's not a cold war per default, when a country refuse to do what the US demands. This is just a conflict of interest. Syria is in Russia's backyard, so of course they'll have opposing viewpoints. Snowden and Wikileaks moved it into the public for a reason. Russia/US can't change that right now, so they have to play along, which seems like a good thing for Snowden/Wikileaks.

>It's not a cold war per default, when a country refuse to do what the US demands. This is just a conflict of interest. Syria is in Russia's backyard, so of course they'll have opposing viewpoints.

They also don't take well to fundamentalists wanting to turn Syria into Afghanistan masquarading as "freedom fighters".

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by coldtea »

sillysaurus wrote: post #5
ne0phyte wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you rather trust your life to the US government?

Yes. Let's not forget that it's Russia. Still, Snowden can't afford to trust the US, so that leaves Russia as an alternative. But that's just a special case for this particular situation.

>Yes. Let's not forget that it's Russia.

So? Russia has been a much more malevolent world player than the US.

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

nodata wrote: post #6

> said Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Hm. Interesting switch. I wonder why.

I found this interesting as well. Putin has developed a reputation for being his own mouthpiece when it comes to anything that helps to further the cult of personality he's built around himself.

In other words, I'm shocked Putin had someone else say this instead of having cameras on him while he was shirtless and wrestling a bear for control of the life of a tiger cub.

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

#16

Post by eksith »

Systemic33 wrote: post #8

I think the saying "The enemy of an enemy, is a friend" suits this situation very well.

In this case, "a pawn". I'm fairly certain the Russians are unwilling to antagonize the U.S. beyond mild annoyance (posturing, really) and if the issue is forced to any meaningful degree, Snowden is toast.

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by SecretofMana »

coldtea wrote: post #14
sillysaurus wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Let's not forget that it's Russia. Still, Snowden can't afford to trust the US, so that leaves Russia as an alternative. But that's just a special case for this particular situation.

> Yes. Let's not forget that it's Russia. So? Russia has been a much more malevolent world player than the US.

I think you misread their comment. They were saying that they would rather trust the US government with their life over the Russian government.

Re: Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin

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Post by kalms »

coldtea wrote: post #13
kalms wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a cold war per default, when a country refuse to do what the US demands. This is just a conflict of interest. Syria is in Russia's backyard, so of course they'll have opposing viewpoints. Snowden and Wikileaks moved it into the public for a reason. Russia/US can't change that right now, so they have to play along, which seems like a good thing for Snowden/Wikileaks.

> It's not a cold war per default, when a country refuse to do what the US demands. This is just a conflict of interest. Syria is in Russia's backyard, so of course they'll have opposing viewpoints. They also don't take well to fundamentalists wanting to turn Syria into Afghanistan masquarading as "freedom fighters".

Living in Europe and being engaged to an Israeli, I can definitely relate to that viewpoint.
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