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Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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~Protect Whistleblowers: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in…

What's the ouch?

> Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws

2012: President Signs Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act[1]

> Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process.

2013: Whistleblower Edward Snowden is charged by federal prosecutors[2]

Has something happened to Snowden that I'm not aware of? As far as I understand, he fled to avoid a trial, not because there was some imminent threat to his life.

1. http://www.whistleblower.org/blog/42-2012/2380-president-sig...

2. http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/us-vs-edwar...

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the "change we can believe in"?

I dunno. Pretty sure we've always been at war with Eastasia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

I think we're passed the point where someone on the internet needs to clarify they made a 1984 reference.

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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~Protect Whistleblowers: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in…

wow. ironically, that's the most eloquent political statement on whistleblowers I can recall reading.

Can't deny the man can talk - and can identify a damn good speechwriter when he finds one.

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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~Protect Whistleblowers: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in…

What's the ouch? > Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws 2012: President Signs Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act[1] > Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process. 2013: Whistleblower Edward Snowden is charged by federal prosecutors[2] Has something happened to Snowden that I'm not aware o…

> As far as I understand, he fled to avoid a trial, not because there was some imminent threat to his life.

Would you write your comment again after knowing this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/opinion/15tue3.html?_r=0

http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/bradley-on-abuse

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/29/justice/manning-wikileaks

Enough?

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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I wrote about this 31 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5933806

But is this news surprise to you??

We needs to focus on jobs and middle class and stop wasting time on phony scandals!!

[1] http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/24/obama-repeats-carneys-phon...

This comes after:

- IRS scrutinizing and unconstitutionally profiling people while spending $5MM on "trainings", shutting down operators due to gov cuts while giving contractors 80MM in bonues? phony scandal!!

- 4 US Officials dead in Benghazi almost 1 years ago, no answers, no credibility (people in charge promoted) phony scandal!!

- 1 US Official dead, hundreds of people dead mostly on Mexico soil after DOJ's Fast And Furious mismanage? phony scandal!!

- DOJ spending time on possible civil lawsuit against Zimmerman, while since the tragedy at least 600 murders done by one race on another in Chicago alone. phony scandal!!

- NSA spying on all americans and foreginers intercepting all possible traffic illegally unlawfully and unconstitutionally? phony scandal!!

- Salandra: hundreds of millions given without proper checks to Presidents friends? phony scandal!!

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the ouch? > Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws 2012: President Signs Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act[1] > Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process. 2013: Whistleblower Edward Snowden is charged by federal prosecutors[2] Has something happened to Snowden that I'm not aware o…

> As far as I understand, he fled to avoid a trial, not because there was some imminent threat to his life. Would you write your comment again after knowing this: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/opinion/15tue3.html?_r=0 http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/bradley-on-abuse http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/29/justice/manning-wikileaks Enough?

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Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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Can't someone just file a FOIA request to get a copy of the entire website? (Just in case archive.org or other archivers missed some of it)

Watching US Government since Obama took over, I would rather imagine US gov going after archive.org, first nicely sending C&D, then with help of IRS thoroughly auditing all archive.org employees' files, then if that doesn't help, ask DHS and take over their site and plaster it with nice eagle logo with "DHS seizure" notice on it.

Edit: oh yes we are still in country of freedom and democracy. Archive.org would be welcomed to sue the government; you guys just prepare yourself for couple years of tough fight and make sure you got couple mil in bank for legal fees; oh and of course you cannot operate your site until you get the judgment that you were right and we were wrong, but even then we will appeal and after another couple years, IF and IF supreme court decides on case against us, then we will still put the file under internal "review" (read: put it on hold for couple more years) and then what are you going to do?? Its not like Eric Holder will prosecute... Enric Holder to release your domain back to you.

Re: Obama Promises Disappear from Web

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I see this as largely coincidental, and nothing nefarious. If you follow the link from the page to the archived version [1], look among the dozens of subjects, click on Ethics, scroll down to near the bottom of the page, you'll see the single paragraph he's referring to. It makes up for about 0.1% of the total content. It's unlikely the administration took down an entire website just to hide Obama's whistleblower promises.

What's more likely is that that, since Hope/Change was the old slogan and "Forward" has replaced it as the new slogan, it's time to take down the old site because it's simply outdated.

C'mon guys let's show a little critical thought and stop looking for conspiracies where they don't exist. It's bad for our credibility. Things are bad enough as it is with the stuff the NSA is actually doing.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20130515024407/http://change.gov/...

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