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Re: Yandex CTO and co-founder has died

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Post by microb » Fri, Jul 26, 2013, 1:15 AM UTC

nikster wrote: post #40

microb wrote: post #19

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Please. Give Einstein, John Von Neumann or Francis Crick another 50 years on this planet and tell me the world would be worse off because of it.

Maybe none of these guys would have done what they've done. Maybe they'd never even have been born, their parents being to lazy. Maybe we'd never have evolved from being pretty comfortable monkeys sitting around - why would we have evolved to breed, to love sex, and to make babies at all? Babies are just competition to an immortal being. Bottom line is, none of us would be around to mourn the passing of an apparently…

You could asses any natural disaster or mass genocide with the same "maybe" logic. I don't know you, but I doubt you applied the same framework to September 11th or the Indian Ocean Tsunami in 2004. These events are objectively tragic, as is the death of Ilya.

Re: Yandex CTO and co-founder has died

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Post by ekianjo » Fri, Jul 26, 2013, 1:25 AM UTC

continuations wrote: post #70

nobodysfool wrote: post #60

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I believe they did have proof that some Asians don't have the gene which helps break down alcohol, and those that had that gene were at a higher risk of cancer if they drank alcohol. No, I guess it isn't definitive proof though. Still, Russia is on the Asian continent, so this theory holds water.

It's not just for Asians. Alcohol is a known cause of cancer for humans. From the American Cancer Society ( http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/dietandphysicalact... ): "Alcohol is a known cause of cancers of the: Mouth Throat (pharynx) Voice box (larynx) Esophagus Liver Colon and rectum Breast"

I would take whatever is written by the American Cancer Society with a grain of salt. They have also a political agenda, since they recommend "children and teens" not to consume alcohol at all, even though there is no study or data to support that claim. In most countries around the world, teens and even children drink alcohol early in their lives without notable health effect on the long run as long as their consumption remains reasonable.

Besides, their claim on "There are many ways of reducing heart disease risk, including avoiding smoking, eating a diet low in saturated and trans fats, staying at a healthy weight, staying physically active, and controlling blood pressure and cholesterol." is only partially true and just reflects the current thinking of specialists. The evidence on LDL/HDL levels is not very compelling and there was a post very recently on HN from a surgeon claiming heart disease was rather linked to tissue inflammation than cholesterol.

Re: Yandex CTO and co-founder has died

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Post by continuations » Fri, Jul 26, 2013, 1:59 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #72

continuations wrote: post #70

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It's not just for Asians. Alcohol is a known cause of cancer for humans. From the American Cancer Society ( http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/dietandphysicalact... ): "Alcohol is a known cause of cancers of the: Mouth Throat (pharynx) Voice box (larynx) Esophagus Liver Colon and rectum Breast"

I would take whatever is written by the American Cancer Society with a grain of salt. They have also a political agenda, since they recommend "children and teens" not to consume alcohol at all, even though there is no study or data to support that claim. In most countries around the world, teens and even children drink alcohol early in their lives without notable health effect on the long run as long as their consump…

> there was a post very recently on HN from a surgeon claiming heart disease was rather linked to tissue inflammation than cholesterol

I believe the "surgeon" you referred to is Dwight Lundell. His claim is just that, a claim. Suffice to note that he has his medical license revoked because of "unprofessional conduct":

http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/lundell/order_2008.pdf

> reflects the current thinking of specialists

That means their recommendation reflects the current medical consensus. Of course American Cancer Society is going to make their recommendations based on current medical consensus instead of some wild claim made by someone who has his medical license revoked. To do anything else would be irresponsible.

Re: Yandex CTO and co-founder has died

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Post by guard-of-terra » Sun, Jul 28, 2013, 5:17 PM UTC

turingbook wrote: post #68

Is there any life story about Ilya? I want to write an article in Chinese about his life and contribution to technology community.

a bit here http://ria.ru/spravka/20130725/951995567.html

more here http://iseg.yandex.ru/

(use google translate or http://translate.yandex.ru/ )

It's not too late because "time of death" was just yesterday after several days coma.