Any faster? My one reason for clinging to Excel is the speed of computations involving thousands of cells, including graphing.
Extremely fast. In some cases, they load Excel spreadsheets faster than Excel 2010.
LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
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#42I would forgo all of these new features if LibreOffice would create more compatible MS Office docs. As it stands, I can no longer use LibreOffice in my current work environment. Everyone complains my MS converted docs do not open correctly, AND VICE VERSA, on their MS Office apps.
MS Office support has been coming a long way over the last few releases - some massive improvements in this release and 4.1. You can see come examples of what's been fixed in this version here - http://vmiklos.hu/blog/lo-41-ooxml-improvements.html (and there's a link there to what was fixed in the last version).
If you are having issues with it on work documents, you could really help out in having them fixed by trying to replicate each problem you find in a sample document, and attaching that to a bug report. Far better than just hoping someone notices it and fixes it.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you Google or visit the website you'll notice that AOO released 4.0 a few days ago.
I meant when will it be good enough. I'm looking for anecdotes, not particulars. Several people in this thread have expressed that at present LibreOffice is much better than OpenOffice. I'm wondering how much better and if enough work is being done on AOO that its expected to catch up anytime soon.
'Good enough' really depends what you need it for. I understand that LO has more people working on it than AOO, so I wouldn't expect the latter to catch up unless there's some big shift in the landscape.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#44Dinosaur. We're moving towards minimal formatting, and web-based solutions (like Google Docs). The ones who need typesetting are stuck with LaTeX anyway.
We're moving towards minimal formatting, and web-based solutions (like Google Docs). You might be. Some of us have been moving back the other way, after discovering that doing real work using children's toys instead of grown-up tools is inefficient and frequently produces substandard results. People have written entire books specifically on how to present information effectively, on top of a vast body of knowledge ab…
> The fact that a typical web-based word processor today offers only trivial formatting tools doesn't invalidate all of that previous experience and understanding; it just means that a typical web-based word processor today isn't very good at producing well-presented documents.
Or it could be that for many people, "good enough" is good enough; they simply don't care about the incremental benefits of "well-presented documents" enough to abandon the convenience of Web-based word processors.
It's sort of like the audiophiles who love vinyl record albums and vacuum-tube amplifiers but can only listen in their sound rooms, versus the iPhone users who can take their 10,000 songs everywhere they go.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#45I appreciate the effort of everyone involved in this complex project but I think that we should see something like an opensource replacement to google docs in our future
The problem with that is the issue of storage and functionality (aka, you have to host it). No one is really going to pay to host it or roll their own when there's a 'free' version already available. And the fact that while the word processor in Google Docs is moderately functional, everything else in the suite is nowhere near a replacement for the actual applications.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#46Meh. I've been using their 4.1 RC. CSV filtering / sorting / manipulation is still dog-slow for large files (>10MBytes).
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#47> Integration of libmwaw written by Laurent Alonso brings support for a multitude of pre-OSX Mac word-processing documents in different file-formats.
Although it's great to support very old formats, I wonder if it makes sense to integrate this to the main distribution, and thus increase the code size with features few people need. They should have some kind of plugin system to support this.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#48Dinosaur. We're moving towards minimal formatting, and web-based solutions (like Google Docs). The ones who need typesetting are stuck with LaTeX anyway.
I use Google Docs, but I dislike them. The worst part is, that this dislike is pretty much irrational—Google Docs just seem extremely fragile to me. I don't know why I get this feeling but it is there and I am not sure I will ever trust any non-trivial documents editin within web browser. Are there other feeling the same way? Maybe you have some idea why do I have this kind of mistrust?
It's probably because you know a little too much about how the sausage is made.
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#49> Integration of libmwaw written by Laurent Alonso brings support for a multitude of pre-OSX Mac word-processing documents in different file-formats. Although it's great to support very old formats, I wonder if it makes sense to integrate this to the main distribution, and thus increase the code size with features few people need. They should have some kind of plugin system to support this.
I'm not sure what you mean. It uses the external libmwaw library, like it already uses libwpd (for WordPerfect) and libwps (for Microsoft Works).
Re: LibreOffice 4.1 New Features and Fixes
#50> Port Agenda Wizard from Java to python. Removed 11 files, 5345 lines of java code (Xisco Faulí) > Port Web Wizard from Java to python. 140 files changed, 5076 (+), 11416 (-). Removed 55 files, 10426 lines of java code (Javier Fernandez) So it looks like they're trying to scrub out the Java parts (except perhaps in Base). Does anyone know if this is the case?
Yep, and even in Base: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/18322/is-there-any-pl...