U.S. cloud firms face backlash from NSA spy programs
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U.S. cloud firms face backlash from NSA spy programs
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#3"The level of skepticism was greater than I expected," said Jim Reavis, co-founder and executive director of the CSA. "I had thought that more people would understand that these activities happen all the time in their countries as well."
Way to not get the point Mr Reavis
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#4What this tells the US Gov't is that you can have money or you can have PRISM, but you can't have both.
Money (aka 'the pursuit of happiness') medium of exchange and shield against tyranny
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#5I hope so.
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#6very good; change in policy will come if the big tech companies speak up and state that total snooping is bad for business.
If one is all for snooping then the sited argument is 'national security' - a very pressing concern. If one is against snooping then the only argument one has are 'civil rights' - this is a matter of principles, meaning that is not of immediate concern; there is always something more urgent to override matters of principle.
If one states that snooping is bad for business then this again moves the argument against snooping into the realm of urgent issues.
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#7"The level of skepticism was greater than I expected," said Jim Reavis, co-founder and executive director of the CSA. "I had thought that more people would understand that these activities happen all the time in their countries as well." Way to not get the point Mr Reavis
That quote is just astounding. The "Cloud Security Association?" Really? It reflects a strange kind of toadyism that some "security professionals" have about cooperating with intelligence and law enforcement.
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#8What's surprising is the lack of alternative services (even outside the US) that clearly state any service they provide will in fact shut down before not being transparent. I have cancelled quite a few services over the last few months, but struggle to find real alternatives.
Also, I doubt even transparency in the aggregate would be enough to make me go back into US based offerings.
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#9Pretty simple way to frame this in a way that Washington can understand:
The NSA data collection programs are _job killers_ for American high-tech workers and its most innovative companies.
Re: U.S. cloud firms face backlash from NSA spy programs
#10Pretty simple way to frame this in a way that Washington can understand: The NSA data collection programs are _job killers_ for American high-tech workers and its most innovative companies.
But none of their friends. More enemies means more federal funds doled out to Halliburton!