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How I Cured my RSI Pain (2010)

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Re: How I Cured my RSI Pain (2010)

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verisimilidude touched on a couple of these points already but apart from training your mind to not worry about pain you can also train it to type in Dvorak. I went even a little further and bought a $30 datahand keyboard (a really, really good price) but even with that dvorak'd wacky thing it only took me about 3 weeks of typing to get proficient and pain free. A good chair goes a long way as well.

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Many years ago I suffered nearly life-changing RSI pain. It happened in the middle of an extreme project where I found myself coding and running CAD for 16 to 18 hours a day, seven days a week for months. The first good decision I made was to stop all work. Next, I sought medical opinion. I was horrified to learn medical professionals were all over the place. I got recommendations spanning from surgery to vitamins. I…

I second this, the only time I ever had wrist pain for prolonged amount of time was from having the desk too high. Ergonomics is not about buying different five different mices, but about making sure the position of your body is such that it can work effectively. There is a good basic description here:

http://www.ergonomics.com.au/pages/400_useful_info/420_how_t...

I don't think you have to go as far as to design your own desk (although the effect is probably great). Just avoid "computer desks" like the black plague and go for a simple large table top on regulated table legs - the keyboard drawer is the worst invention ever in terms of ergonomics.

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Many years ago I suffered nearly life-changing RSI pain. It happened in the middle of an extreme project where I found myself coding and running CAD for 16 to 18 hours a day, seven days a week for months. The first good decision I made was to stop all work. Next, I sought medical opinion. I was horrified to learn medical professionals were all over the place. I got recommendations spanning from surgery to vitamins. I…

Jesus, you didn't think working 16-18 hours per day could be the cause? I bet slaves live better then that.

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Many years ago I suffered nearly life-changing RSI pain. It happened in the middle of an extreme project where I found myself coding and running CAD for 16 to 18 hours a day, seven days a week for months. The first good decision I made was to stop all work. Next, I sought medical opinion. I was horrified to learn medical professionals were all over the place. I got recommendations spanning from surgery to vitamins. I…

Jesus, you didn't think working 16-18 hours per day could be the cause? I bet slaves live better then that.

Launching a self-funded challenging hardware + software startup is not for the weak hearted. I am not saying it is smart. Sometimes you have no choice.

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Many years ago I suffered nearly life-changing RSI pain. It happened in the middle of an extreme project where I found myself coding and running CAD for 16 to 18 hours a day, seven days a week for months. The first good decision I made was to stop all work. Next, I sought medical opinion. I was horrified to learn medical professionals were all over the place. I got recommendations spanning from surgery to vitamins. I…

Can you please share photo or video of your setup? That will be of much helpful. Thanks

Re: How I Cured my RSI Pain (2010)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying "placebo effect" like it's a bad thing. Many doctors agree placebo is a powerful drug, and a component of every type of pill administered to a conscious person. Even a consultation with a doctor can have a positive, even if unmeasurable placebo effect on a patient's health. If this method is about effective application of placebo and it works, at least for some people, what harm can be in it?

Placebos are great for things you can do nothing about. If you caught the common cold and a placebo makes you feel better then great. But if you have Repetitive Strain Injury (emphasis on repetitive and injury ) and your cure is placebo then you're setting yourself up for something nasty. I'll quote the article: > I can type as much as I want, in whatever unergonomic position I want, on any keyboard, without any pain…

So the guy who wrote the article took an open minded approach tried numerous methods until he found something that worked (including all the things you seem to suggest).

Your recommendation not to buy the book is based on what evidence exactly?

Re: How I Cured my RSI Pain (2010)

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Two words: music physiotherapists. Musicians get RSI-type problems a lot, and when it's career-ending for a concert pianist, people really pay attention. Plus there's several hundred years of accumulated experience dealing with these problems. I still have fluid around my tendons 20 years later, my RSI was so bad - visible roundness in my forearms - and I haven't had a day of pain in a decade. It took six sessions, a…

The Alexander technique is also popular amongst musicians, and there seems to be a lot of overlap with the principles described here.

Re: How I Cured my RSI Pain (2010)

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I suspect what's happening with all the people who this works for is that given there are some people who have a psychological component to their pain and some who have a mostly physical component. Even if there are far fewer suffering from the psychological version, they are the ones who physical treatment will fail for. So they will be the ones that get as far as trying the pseudosciencey approach to dealing with t…

I am amazed at the shallow thinking of many in this thread who dismiss the story as "quackery".

I'd encourage anyone who speaks of a "pseudosciencey approach" to do some careful thinking and propose an approach that would let us measure the effects our minds have on our bodies. So far most people sweep this effect under the rug calling it the "placebo effect" (a catch-all phrase for everything we do not understand). That's not an answer.

Notice: we live in the XXI century, and yet we treat our bodies as though our heads were detached and completely independent. Medicine as we know it is based on pills, syringes, vials and knives. Anything else is the "placebo effect" or in the (decidedly non-scientific) domain of psychologists and psychiatrists. I'd call that hiding our head in the sand (double-entendre intended).

We do all this while readily accepting that we can sweat, or get diarrhea from nervousness. If people accept that the mind can (subconsciously) control sweating, why can't they accept that it can (subconsciously) control the narrowing of blood vessels?

Most people dismiss psychosomatic effects without understanding what they are. Psychosomatic pain isn't any less real. The physical changes are there, they just might not be exactly the changes you are looking for (e.g. no inflammation). And they are caused by the mind, which is why we call them "psychosomatic". But they are not hallucinations, or misfiring neurons in your nervous system.

I am all for scientific approach to medicine. But that includes not shutting your eyes to an entire huge branch of it that we simply do not understand — the connection between the mind and the body.

Also, many people don't understand the mechanism behind all this. It's not that Sarno is a magic-voodoo healer. All he does is show you the mechanism — which is very often enough: the mind, once exposed to its own tricks, starts working differently. This is why just reading his books and thinking about them causes changes in so many people (either the pain is gone, or the symptoms shift and change).

Source: myself. I got rid of joint pain after 8 years of fruitless doctor visits. It is now almost completely under control: if it happens, I can tell why it happened and control it. As a bonus, it turned out that my frequent throat infections and the allergies are gone, too.

Don't dismiss psychosomatic effects. Sure, go see a doctor first, but if multiple doctors are unable to find a cause of your pain, at least read one of Sarno's books and think (critically!) about it.

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