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Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by mehwoot »

math0ne wrote: post #137
tommi wrote: post #115

"The last few days have been absolutely incredible -- over $3.5 million in the first 40 hours." This seems quite low. With thirty days they must achieve over a million dollars per day. I would assume that the first 40 hours brings way more money than the days 3-27 but that's only double than the required average income. I hope they reach the target, but I doubt it.

Crowd funding generally receives the bulk of it's funding in the last few days. Many projects succeed when they at < 50% funded a couple days prior to the end.

Yes but crowd funding is generally raising a bit less than $32 million. Impossible to tell whether this project will follow others.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by akandiah »

Brakenshire wrote: post #86
tytso wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The really huge question is what will the battery life be. A pocket-sized device which only has 3 hours of battery life is not going to be interesting to me.

Could it charge over HDMI? I suppose that's the key question.

A HDMI port can provide 5V at a maximum current of 50mA. This would not be enough (or rather practical) to charge a mobile phone. It's less than the 100mA offered by USB2 (before device enumeration).

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by mehwoot »

aroman wrote: post #79
zxcdw wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've donated useless $20 for nothing(except goodwill funding of the project), so additional $50 for the device would be something I'd choose any day without hesitation.

But nobody is suggesting that. It'd be an additional $605. You didn't feel that the 625/830 price of the phone was worth it to you. The people who did already chose to donate for the "goodwill funding of the project" -- with $625+.

I think he means since he donated $20 just for nothing, if he was buying a device, adding another $50 on top isn't a huge deal.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by mehwoot »

kevcampb wrote: post #9
eterm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've missed their target, I don't think a single kickstarter has been successful having only reached 20% on day 1. (Most successful drives have well over 50% done day 1.) Here they haven't even reached that after a few days. Unless shuttleworth decides to stick the money in himself this won't be happening.

Very curious to whether that's allowed or not. Run a Kickstarter campaign, buy your own product to fill in demand. You'd think that if they get within 90% of total and the option is there they'd take it - the 10% of the items they buy themselves they'll get to sell on anyway. Can someone read the Kickstarter T&Cs for me? :)

It is definitely not allowed on Kickstarter. Whether that is in the T&C I'm not sure, but I know people have warned about it.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by Jefff8 »

I'd like to see another reward level: I would pay $50 for an option to buy the phone at $650 at launch or soon afterwards. Say 2 months after launch to give the people who have paid outright up front an advantage.

You'd get an indication of volume and free money. Not many companies get the chance to charge potential customers.

Also, if this suggestion brings you more than $1m, I'd like a free phone please.

Reader: if you'd like this option too, why not chime in here.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by socceroos »

pionar wrote: post #136
whiskers wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather not need a computer at home and work (and all the syncing issues that entails). Currently I work from two fixed locations and also from home. If I can just have a fixed screen, keyboard and mouse there and take this around with all my current working stack ready to go that'd be ace!

Hmm, why not look into laptop docks? That's how we do it at my company. Each workstation is just a dock, screens, and mouse and keyboard. You can move around anywhere really easily.

You would not believe how many of my managers complain to us about how heavy and uncouth their laptop is to carry around. We actually had one guy apply for workplace compensation after his back caused him problems - he blamed it on carrying around a laptop + case.

I think you'd be surprised at the uptake of this kind of device in the corporate world if it was marketed correctly.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by socceroos »

andy_ppp wrote: post #140
rythie wrote: post #58

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The problem is that if you go to some random machine, you'll most likely have the following problems: - Getting an account takes most of the one day you're there - None of the software you use is there - It's not even the OS you use - There are restrictions on the machine - There are viruses on the machine (if it's a home machine) For these reasons people often use carry around a laptop. Carrying a laptop is pain, be…

Now: I just dropped my phone in the toilet - all my numbers are gone and I've lost $600+. Future: I just dropped my whole fucking life in the toilet. I had shedloads of work on there amounting to many times the cost of the phone! Near Future: Ah it's okay - I backed up my phone to my computer. Error: Too Much Recursion.

Answer: UbuntuOne

In fact, they're even considering full-blown AES 256 encryption on all your devices backed-up data.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by socceroos »

thomasjames wrote: post #11

Shuttleworth's interview about how they are going to keep the long term future of Ubuntu's phone OS from fragmenting while still allowing complete manufacturer customization was a really disappointing string of non-answers. I am really confused about how this is going to shape up. Maybe this will set a precendent for a Nexus-style standard device with the blessing of Canonical itself.

The general message is this: you don't put a new UI over the top, you add your own services (videos displayed, music store, books, mags, etc, etc). There is a small amount of leg room for making minor UI tweaks such as the welcome screen layout, general colour scheme, etc - but that's it.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by socceroos »

m_ram wrote: post #122
rythie wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a 32bit chip anyway, can they even support more than 4GB of RAM? (or even all of that - PCs couldn't, it was 3.5 - 3.7GB visible to apps)

It looks like the latest 32-bit ARM chips have this capability [1]: 40-bit Large Physical Address Extensions (LPAE) addressing up to 1 TB of RAM. As per the x86 Physical Address Extension, still only 32-bit address space is available per process. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A15_MPCore

I'm pretty sure they're putting an Intel chip in this one.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by minor_nitwit »

netcan wrote: post #45

I don't quite get what's going on here. Is this an idea for a major commercial product or is it a quirky fun thing for the ubuntu community? The scale they're aiming for seems to imply the former. Usable as a desktop is a cool idea, but more of a "linux on your wristwatch" idea than one with real use. I mean, if you have a keyboard & monitor handy, how hard is it to have a PC too? Cheap micro desktops are coming out…

Watch the video on youtube about ubuntu for android. This is from a year ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1Z7bf4jXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
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