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Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by dwild »

bobsy wrote: post #40
whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

Just wondering what scenarios you foresee you using the desktop feature in? If your travelling there won't be a screen available unless you lug one around. In which case you might as well carry a laptop. At home and work you probably have a computer. I think it is an interesting concept but I don't quite see the practical use. Unless it had like a stand and a projector or something.

Personnaly I would use it at school, that way I can avoid to bring my laptop at school. I don't like to use school computers for any development because it's not my environment (configurations, git, etc..). That way I already have screen/keyboard/mouse but I also have my own environment which will never change.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by dwild »

netcan wrote: post #99
fingerprinter wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Am I missing the point entirely? Is this all about Ubuntu mobile itself with android & ubuntu desktop as extras? It's a phone! It's a computer! It's both! More seriously, imagine a phone that is always a phone unless you want to make it a computer. Plug it into a TV/Monitor/glass and you have a full computer desktop. I travel quite a bit. I have in my bag at the moment a laptop, a phone and a tablet. With this, I ne…

"With this, I need just the phone. " You still need the keyboard and monitor, don't you?. If you are traveling, it would probably be best if they snapped together into a nice, book-like shape. Like a laptop, but with the computer conveniently removed? Regarding money-saving at a 10,000 PC corporation.. really? First, they would have to use Ubuntu, and they use Windows. Second, its not really that much money. Even if…

Find me an equivalent in a micro computer form for $200 or so.

Find me an equivalent in a cellphone form for 830$.

Now find me an equivalent that do both.

I don't think it's a really good idea to replace everything with a single device, but you can't say that it's not less expensive.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by ANH »

I'm all for an Ubuntu phone, almost to the point of shelling out, but I'm not sure I'd get a commensurate benefit from this phone. I would probably go for it if it weren't for remote desktop apps like iTeleport. Pull out whatever mobile device you've got (this morning it was my iPad), launch the app, and there's your home desktop (assuming you've got a cell or WiFi signal). It's laggy, but such things improve over time.

Maybe I'm missing the point.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by zbinga »

whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

It's this generation's notion of a personal computer. I like it.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by tommi »

"The last few days have been absolutely incredible -- over $3.5 million in the first 40 hours."

This seems quite low. With thirty days they must achieve over a million dollars per day. I would assume that the first 40 hours brings way more money than the days 3-27 but that's only double than the required average income. I hope they reach the target, but I doubt it.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by nickpinkston »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #93
nickpinkston wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's Formula 1 without the constant refueling? ;-)

Since the 2010 season, F1 hasn't had any refueling during races. Tires becoming useless after 15 laps is probably the better analogy.

Haha - shows how much I watch racing. That's cool though!

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by achiang »

avar wrote: post #104

Is there any information on whether the drivers on the phone will be open source as well? I'm on the fence, but the main thing stopping me is that I'm not very keen on buying yet another phone powered by a bunch of proprietary binary blobs. I'd like to hack on the software, build my own, try to install Debian on it instead etc. All that is going to be much harder if I have to use whatever kernel version their binary…

We plan on an unlocked phone, with an unlocked bootloader.

Unfortunately, for the planned volume, we won't have much influence with the SoC vendor, and therefore, it is highly doubtful you will see open graphics / radio firmware.

Sorry, it's not our preference either.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by lifeformed »

hugh4life wrote: post #108

I can't comment on their thing so I'll say something here hoping someone there reads it... They really ought to make their $20 founder level a lottery. And then after that was publicized, make two more tiers. $20 - 1 ticket $50 - 3 tickets $100 - 8 tickets And then throw in some of the $10,000 one of a kind prizes in the drawing.

That sounds possibly illegal, or at least against the TOS.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by achiang »

option_greek wrote: post #103
ximeng wrote: post #67

625 is sold out already. Any idea what the likely BOM cost to Ubuntu would be for this? http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/Samsung-Galaxy-S... Suggests 400$ is achievable, which should leave them plenty of room for profit at 600 USD. Given the dropoff when the price goes up to 675 from 625 here: http://vertior.com:9000/ and the lack of marketing / distribution costs you'd think they'd do better just to leave…

With such low handset numbers (<50000), I would be surprised if they don't lose money.

The cost of my team's engineering time over the next multiple months is not covered by the $32M.

I do not think you will be surprised.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by rgbrenner »

RobAley wrote: post #23
dan1234 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly OT, but do you know where you stand from an import duty/VAT standpoint? A quick google suggests you could be liable for around £90 in duty & VAT[1] [1] http://www.dutycalculator.com/popular-import-items/import-du...

Its says free shipping in the US and UK, so I'm guessing, as Canonical is based in London, they'll do the importing and deal with duty, so the price you see is the price you pay! I'm guessing.

But that would mean that they are charging everyone -- including those not subject to VAT -- a 20% surcharge for VAT. That seems really unlikely
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