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Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by Brakenshire »

daliusd wrote: post #69
rufugee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, if you have a keyboard & monitor handy, how hard is it to have a PC too? If your phone supports use as a full computer, then the need for a PC is obviated. In my case, I have roughly 3500 employees, of which approximately 2000 have computers. Almost all of them carry smart phones. I envision a future state where those smart phones are also their PCs...they become more mobile and can easily access their data a…

I just wonder why aren't you investigating existing smartphones for that. Many of them already have HDMI connection, multi core processors and can be connected with bluetooth keyboard. The software most probably will not be problem with Android (not sure about other OSes).

You'd need a fully fledged desktop to make it work. Is there a project like that in existence which you could just install on a random smartphone? I haven't heard of one.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by josh2600 »

dan1234 wrote: post #14

At current levels they need more than 30,000 people to commit to buy an $830 dollar phone which is not expected to released for at least 10 months and with next to no marketing clout. I'm not saying it can't be done but I'd be very surprised if they meet the target.

To me, this isn't so much the problem as the realities of producing a phone with a Bill of Materials like the one they're intending.

I can't imagine that spec sheet, at the end of 2013/beginning of 2014, is going to be cheap. They'd be hard pressed to manufacture this phone at all, let alone with sapphire screens and such.

Think of it this way, Samsung won't even broker a discussion about RAM unless you order >100k units. If they sold 32M of phones at $600, that's about 53k handsets, which is about half of an initial production run for any serious manufacturer.

I'm bearish, but I'd be thrilled if we had another competitor against iOS and Android. Blackberry and WP8 are not real contenders, Canonical could easily get the 3rd slot.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by [deleted] »

tytso wrote: post #80
whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

The really huge question is what will the battery life be. A pocket-sized device which only has 3 hours of battery life is not going to be interesting to me.

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Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by DanBC »

bobsy wrote: post #40
whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

Just wondering what scenarios you foresee you using the desktop feature in? If your travelling there won't be a screen available unless you lug one around. In which case you might as well carry a laptop. At home and work you probably have a computer. I think it is an interesting concept but I don't quite see the practical use. Unless it had like a stand and a projector or something.

I have screens at home, and I have computers at home, but I'd be happy to get one of these so I can do stuff in the garden, or at a coffee shop, and then carry on at home.

Some people just want a tiny computer for a bit of email, a bit of social media and some cat videos, with the occasional office document creation and reading.

BYOD could really use something like this.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by spudlyo »

daliusd wrote: post #69
rufugee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, if you have a keyboard & monitor handy, how hard is it to have a PC too? If your phone supports use as a full computer, then the need for a PC is obviated. In my case, I have roughly 3500 employees, of which approximately 2000 have computers. Almost all of them carry smart phones. I envision a future state where those smart phones are also their PCs...they become more mobile and can easily access their data a…

I just wonder why aren't you investigating existing smartphones for that. Many of them already have HDMI connection, multi core processors and can be connected with bluetooth keyboard. The software most probably will not be problem with Android (not sure about other OSes).

In my view, none of the Operating Systems available on current phones are suitable for the kind of desktop work I do. This is an actual Linux based phone, not just a Linux kernel with a VM that runs some phone apps. As a Linux hacker I feel like I could do quite a lot with this phone.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by Brakenshire »

tytso wrote: post #80
whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

The really huge question is what will the battery life be. A pocket-sized device which only has 3 hours of battery life is not going to be interesting to me.

Could it charge over HDMI? I suppose that's the key question.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by japhyr »

toyg wrote: post #62
yuumei wrote: post #31

Up to date graph: http://vertior.com:9000/

That's a wonderful visualization, the second graph shows very clearly that the new strategy is working wonders. I still think Shuttleworth will eventually top-up with his own money, but this should reduce his exposure somewhat ;)

Can he do that? I thought kickstarter tries to block people from doing that. How does indiegogo deal with that issue?

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by nickpinkston »

tytso wrote: post #80
whiskers wrote: post #36

Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

The really huge question is what will the battery life be. A pocket-sized device which only has 3 hours of battery life is not going to be interesting to me.

What's Formula 1 without the constant refueling? ;-)

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by toyg »

japhyr wrote: post #87
toyg wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a wonderful visualization, the second graph shows very clearly that the new strategy is working wonders. I still think Shuttleworth will eventually top-up with his own money, but this should reduce his exposure somewhat ;)

Can he do that? I thought kickstarter tries to block people from doing that. How does indiegogo deal with that issue?

I don't think indiegogo is as strict as kickstarter... regardless: I expect something that brings 32m through IG would get preferential terms anyway.

Mind, it's all speculation at this point.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Post by achiang »

jkimmel wrote: post #68
griffordson wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder the same thing. But I would be really interested in trying a small Mac Air sized screen/keyboard shell that had a port that I could slide such a phone in to. Sort of a portable docking station.

Reminds me of my old Motorola Atrix [1]. It had a laptop docking shell that booted a restricted version of Ubuntu alongside an instance of Android. It was totally cool, and everyone that saw it was amazed. However, actual usage was another story. Tegra2 just wasn't powerful enough to drive Ubuntu and Android concurrently in a usable manner. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G

We've come a long, long way since WebTop.

Our code runs fairly well on the Nexus 4 today, and through much dogfooding, we've learned that RAM is the biggest limiting factor in performance. So when (if?!) Edge ships with 4GB of RAM, the desktop mode will fly.

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