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Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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They've missed their target, I don't think a single kickstarter has been successful having only reached 20% on day 1. (Most successful drives have well over 50% done day 1.) Here they haven't even reached that after a few days. Unless shuttleworth decides to stick the money in himself this won't be happening.

I wonder if they have arrangements for corporate donors to jump in and buy the top tier at scheduled times... I am thinking not, since it's through PayPal, but never know.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

Just wondering what scenarios you foresee you using the desktop feature in? If your travelling there won't be a screen available unless you lug one around. In which case you might as well carry a laptop. At home and work you probably have a computer. I think it is an interesting concept but I don't quite see the practical use. Unless it had like a stand and a projector or something.

You're never somewhere where there's a TV screen with HDMI?

A bluetooth keyboard + HDMI cable can fit in my pocket.

EDIT: And part of the point is for this to eventually replace your desktops too, so you don't need to have everything spread out over multiple computers.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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So you don't go places where there might be a display already? No hotels with a TV already in the room, never go to a friends or relatives who might have a screen that you could borrow?

Still need peripherals though.

Keyboards with touchpads are available in sizes ranging from no larger than the phone. And if this type of device takes off, you might see hotels etc. provide keyboards and mice in the rooms at least in places catering to business travellers.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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I am struggling to justify buying a phone now that won't ship for 10 months. By then Apple, Samsung, HTC etc will all have far superior devices

You clearly haven't read the specs: Fastest multi-core CPU /s

I'm really surprised they wrote that, as it seems bound for legal issues. They cannot possibly guarantee the fastest multi-core CPU (what, a Haswell? Oh, just "mobile" -- well what if Apple or another non-seller has the current fastest multi-core mobile CPU at the time?)

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've missed their target, I don't think a single kickstarter has been successful having only reached 20% on day 1. (Most successful drives have well over 50% done day 1.) Here they haven't even reached that after a few days. Unless shuttleworth decides to stick the money in himself this won't be happening.

Very curious to whether that's allowed or not. Run a Kickstarter campaign, buy your own product to fill in demand. You'd think that if they get within 90% of total and the option is there they'd take it - the 10% of the items they buy themselves they'll get to sell on anyway. Can someone read the Kickstarter T&Cs for me? :)

I know bands that have "kicked" in the remainder to reach goal at the 11th hour. Probably waaaay more common than you'd imagine.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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I don't quite get what's going on here. Is this an idea for a major commercial product or is it a quirky fun thing for the ubuntu community? The scale they're aiming for seems to imply the former. Usable as a desktop is a cool idea, but more of a "linux on your wristwatch" idea than one with real use. I mean, if you have a keyboard & monitor handy, how hard is it to have a PC too? Cheap micro desktops are coming out…

> I mean, if you have a keyboard & monitor handy, how hard is it to have a PC too?

> Am I missing the point entirely?

I believe one of the key points is that multiple computers suck. You have to sync/merge data, you have to sync/merge emails (unless you have your private IMAP server), you have to sync/merge chat logs, you have to upgrade software in multiple places…

I am really happy I got rid off my desktop a few years back and am now using only a notebook with a docking station at home and a phone. If I could only have a phone, that would be heaven on earth.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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I doubt that anybody else will have more than 4GB of RAM or 128GB of flash in 10 months. There may be some phones that match it, but I would be willing to give great odds that there won't be a mainstream phone with more.

It's a 32bit chip anyway, can they even support more than 4GB of RAM? (or even all of that - PCs couldn't, it was 3.5 - 3.7GB visible to apps)

PC's can/could via PAE. Each application could only address 4GB (of which some would need to be set aside for mapping in other stuff than application data). Don't know if 32bit ARMs support hacks like that, though.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Why do they have the same exact item/reward point at $625, $675, $725 and $830? It seems to me they're realizing there's no way they can reach they goal selling at the $830 price point, but why have all other levels simultaneously? Are people really going to pick 725 over 675 for the same thing?

One of the important points here is that each price level (aside from the last one) has an allotment of 1250 units. So, while most people won't buy at $625 vs $675, so long as $625 is available, it provides incentive for people to buy now vs later and risk the lower level selling out. Edit: Although, the $625 level is now "1296 out of 1250 claimed" - so I'm not sure what that is about.

Looks like they're probably letting people through if they've entered the pledge process while there were free slots even if all were filled by the time they completed it.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Why do they have the same exact item/reward point at $625, $675, $725 and $830? It seems to me they're realizing there's no way they can reach they goal selling at the $830 price point, but why have all other levels simultaneously? Are people really going to pick 725 over 675 for the same thing?

I've donated useless $20 for nothing(except goodwill funding of the project), so additional $50 for the device would be something I'd choose any day without hesitation.

But nobody is suggesting that. It'd be an additional $605. You didn't feel that the 625/830 price of the phone was worth it to you. The people who did already chose to donate for the "goodwill funding of the project" -- with $625+.

Re: Canonical adds a $625 and $675 UbuntuEdge reward level

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Well that decides it - I'm in. I'm excited about the possibility of a genuinely hand held, pocket sized device that I can hook up to behave like a full desktop. It's a format that has been tried before but the power/price ratio has never been favourable - this feels like the first real chance for it to work.

The really huge question is what will the battery life be. A pocket-sized device which only has 3 hours of battery life is not going to be interesting to me.
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