Apple Developer Center still down • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by marshray » Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 3:40 AM UTC

DoubleMalt wrote: post #111

saurik wrote: post #6

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Interesting; the http://devimages.apple.com/ URL seems to return the underlying contents of the file, bypassing the SSI (I'm so happy they use SSI... seriously: I love SSI ;P). You can then see the raw directives, and pull the individual parts. (It isn't quite then fair to say that it is a "broken bit of their template system"; it is more that it is a poor way to setup a static large-file caching endpoint, and may it…

Careful. You might have committed a felony by accessing a page with SSIs. It was definitely not intended to be accessed under that URL by you ;)

That's no winking matter.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by coldtea » Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 8:09 AM UTC

pavanky wrote: post #28

coldtea wrote: post #10

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Nice attempt at snark, but something being fault-proof in this regard doesn't magically make it worthy in others. Like desktop use, for one. People will not adopt Linux for their desktop/laptop even when offered for free. Where by people I mean more than 1% of them.

That is not totally true. The reason most people stay with Windows is because the hardware ships with it. In my experience Linux usage has about 50% retention rate among those I installed the OS for. If you'd install OSX or Windows on a non techie who grew up using just Linux, I'd think the retention rates would be much lower.

>That is not totally true. The reason most people stay with Windows is because the hardware ships with it.

Only every attempt to sell hardware that ships with Linux (by several companies) failed.

And the "switch to something different" didn't seem to bother those going to OS X.

OS X, in less time than what Desktop Linux was promoted (1998-2013 for Dektop Linux, 2001-2013 for OS X), and with more expessive hardware, went from 2% to around 12% in the US (and even more for laptop share).

>In my experience Linux usage has about 50% retention rate among those I installed the OS for.

Selection bias.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by mcintyre1994 » Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 12:16 PM UTC

stevenp wrote: post #94

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #90

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Being sunday has nothing to do with it - notice the title is "still down" - it's been down since thursday. If this was planned, any sane company would give notice to their developers, Apple's success implies they're sane. Don't forget that developers get 30%, when Apple show off (rightfully so) a huge sum paid to developers, they've been paid significantly more than that - developers seriously matter.

Developers get 70%, and Apple gets 30%, not the other way around. The sum paid to developers is substantially larger than the sum paid to Apple.

Oops, stupid mistake. Point stands that Apple gain a lot, but thanks for pointing that out.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Post by berkut » Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 12:35 PM UTC

pbsdp wrote: post #47

berkut wrote: post #40

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Just use Qt. Works brilliantly, great API and documentation, and gets you 95% of the way to Windows versions and 85% of the way on OS X too. On OS X you'll have issues with native painting within OpenGL drawing and maybe event throttling / reordering for mouse / pen tablet events that you have to install a manual event filter for to fix, as OS X doesn't always send input mouse/keyboard events in the correct order.

Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app. If you have any solid competition in the market from a company willing to produce a native app, you'll lose to them. No wonder you're having issues on OS X.

In fact they do: Phil Schiller himself on 10th June at the WWDC keynote mentioned that we've ported Mari to OS X, and he was extremely impressed with it and the fact that we've ported it.

It's heavily Qt-based, and doesn't really follow any Apple design guidelines. But it's the best 3D texture painting app in the world for high-end work.