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I can confirm this. The language is "limit ad tracking" instead of "disable," which worries me a bit.
The slippery slope
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Re: The slippery slope
#72I'm going to nitpick a bit here, mostly because it's entertaining to play devil's advocate on a topic that's always met with such one-sided responses on HN (in this case: dark patterns). My question is: Why should a company make it easy for people to do exactly what it doesn't want them to do? Sure, outright trickery and lies are almost unarguably immoral. And the author definitely identifies many examples of that. B…
Acting shady hurts your brand. Harry Brignull(the author) discusses this in a talk[1] that I found on the dark patterns website(I checked out the website after loving the article). He makes the argument that sure, many of these tactics might increase your conversion rates or make you some money, at least in the short run. But it also causes you to come off as seedy, to come off as a back alley discount store instead…
Re: The slippery slope
#73I recently signed up and it only asked for some basic info. By default, of course, all email notifications are turned on. When you try to turn them off and save changes - it won't let you save because one "mandatory" field is incomplete [1].
So you're forced to add more info if you want to turn off email notifications.
It's not a big deal, but it falls in the same category. I like the company less now.
Re: The slippery slope
#74I'm going to nitpick a bit here, mostly because it's entertaining to play devil's advocate on a topic that's always met with such one-sided responses on HN (in this case: dark patterns). My question is: Why should a company make it easy for people to do exactly what it doesn't want them to do? Sure, outright trickery and lies are almost unarguably immoral. And the author definitely identifies many examples of that. B…
We're seeing 'one-click unsubscribe' link in many emails these days. I think that is one good indication for a spam filter to let through. This is a proof that only the right approach prevail eventually.
Re: The slippery slope
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can confirm this. The language is "limit ad tracking" instead of "disable," which worries me a bit.
I think a better word would be "refuse", as it more accurately portrays the situation. It too is not perfect though, as your "refusal" can still be ignored.
Re: The slippery slope
#76Enjoyed the article, but I had to read it using the Clearly extension because the native web page is extremely laggy for me. I'm on a Win8 machine running current Chrome. It seems like such a simple design but hot damn does it chug when I scroll.
Re: The slippery slope
#77Re: The slippery slope
#78I'm going to nitpick a bit here, mostly because it's entertaining to play devil's advocate on a topic that's always met with such one-sided responses on HN (in this case: dark patterns). My question is: Why should a company make it easy for people to do exactly what it doesn't want them to do? Sure, outright trickery and lies are almost unarguably immoral. And the author definitely identifies many examples of that. B…
To give an example: In line with Google's mission statement of "Don't be evil", I figure that it could extend to "Don't be annoying". > My question is: Why should a company make it easy for people to do exactly what it doesn't want them to do? Because its just plain annoying to users. Running a business and designing your application / system to trick people into behaving in a certain way is one thing, being transpar…
I'm starting to think the only way to get them to stop is with violence. I wonder if those nag screens come up in a standardized way...
Re: The slippery slope
#79Users can see a badge indicating that you are a member or not. Eventually gmail and others will have to add a setting on whether to allow emails from non-members or not and until then, browser extensions will do the work.
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Re: The slippery slope
#80I'm going to nitpick a bit here, mostly because it's entertaining to play devil's advocate on a topic that's always met with such one-sided responses on HN (in this case: dark patterns). My question is: Why should a company make it easy for people to do exactly what it doesn't want them to do? Sure, outright trickery and lies are almost unarguably immoral. And the author definitely identifies many examples of that. B…
The best way to grow is to have users that love you. I believe the inverse is also true, having users that hate you will limit your growth.
I once had a terrifically hard time cancelling a gym membership that turned from a free trial into a 2 year, $500 membership automatically. I still express strong feelings any time I hear the gym's name.