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Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

ludoo wrote: post #22
drcode wrote: post #11

Does anyone really still want a phone you can plug into a monitor? This would have been a dream product back before broadband and wifi became ubiquitous, and before extra PCs became so cheap. Nowadays, it seems like a much better design is to have multiple devices with different form factors that can access shared data via a cloud. (unless this product is meant as an NSA-proof system, but I don't see that it makes a…

You can already do that: HDMI output, Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

But that doesn't let you run "desktop" software (e.g. LibreOffice, Inkscape/GIMP, a browser with proper keyboard shortcuts, a development environment (!) -- still a much different ball game than mobile apps.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by ihaveajob »

reedlaw wrote: post #319
rlpb wrote: post #311

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How does this hardware compare to FirefoxOS' hardware offerings?

This hardware looks like it blows everything else out of the water. So far, Firefox OS hardware offerings have been on the low-end.

I'm salivating over the hardware specs, but you have to consider that 1 year from now they won't seem as spectacular.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by sho_hn »

zanny wrote: post #370
sho_hn wrote: post #367

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That's incorrect. QML has used v8 since its initial appearance in Qt4. In fact, it will move away from v8 in Qt 5.2 is the current plan.

http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/03/05/qt-for-ios-preview/ According to the qt blog, only qtquick2 depends on v8.

You're right, sorry - replacing JavaScriptCore with v8 indeed only happened for Qt 5. However, v8 is indeed on the way out again, as mentioned: http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/04/15/evolution-of-the-qm...

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by Synaesthesia »

devindotcom wrote: post #174
nobodysfool wrote: post #172

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There aren't much in the way of specs here. The screen will likely be 1024x768 or similar, seeing as how they say that they are shooting for around 300ppi in a 4.5in screen. The battery technology that they say they want is unproven, produced only in sample quantities, and has issues with the electrolyte expanding to 4x it's size (which they say will be fixed via carbon nanotubes, the latest 'magic pixie dust'). I am…

300ppi at 4.5in would probably be 720p - that's what the First and M4/One mini have at 4.3 in for something like 330 ppi. That would be m y guess anyway. I'm more concerned with the promise of 4GB ram and 128GB storage. That's going to be very expensive. The highest end phones today cost more and half half or less of that. (I know, things get cheaper, but this isn't orders of 20 million, it's orders of 20,000)

128gb of flash storage is like $150 retail, probably less in bulk. 4gb RAM is not expensive, yeah it's integrated, but the reason why device manufacturers hold back is they're penny pinchers who are looking to maximise profit, and they're also running mobile OS'es that don't need 4gb.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by Synaesthesia »

lbenes wrote: post #282
kub wrote: post #200

The 4.5" 1280x720 screen kills it. It needs to have at least 5" 1920x1080 to display 1080p content without destroying information and to match or exceed the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 (and S5 since they ship in 2014). And preferably non-Pentile AMOLED. And also removable battery and one or more SD/micro-SD slots. It's a pity since everything else seems great.

Wow, I expected better from people on HN. I suppose you are also one of those smug people with a 20 megapixel point and shoot who thinks it takes better pictures than my 12MP DSLR. Well I have news for you buddy. It doesn't and your 1080p pentile S4 looks no better playing movies than the Nexus 4, when held at a comfortable distance. In our house we have both a N4 and S4, and I'll take the N4 any time. I'm no Ubuntu…

Yes Mark has the right approach here, the colour rendition/accuracy of the iPhone 5 really makes it the best looking display I've seen. And I can't see the pixels - no need for higher res than that.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

ldng wrote: post #368
socceroos wrote: post #254

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LinuxAdvocates... I wouldn't advise using that guy as a source of reliable information. For far more balanced views that aren't pro-Ubuntu (necessarily) it would be more advisable to visit a site like The Var Guy.

Neither would I recommend taking my comment too seriously. I was half-joking ;-)

Yeah, I was referring to parent comments link to LinuxAdvocates. =)

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by fungi »

vog wrote: post #300
grey-area wrote: post #52

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I've ordered one too, because I really like the sound of a Phone OS based on Ubuntu, not controlled by the likes of Google and Apple, and with a UI based on HTML. The proposed UI and demo apps look nice, I like the idea of losing the chrome as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7QbCqFY7Y It's going up quite fast, from 167k to 198k as I finish writing this, but I'm not sure if they'll make their target, just beca…

> based on Ubuntu, not controlled by the likes of Google and Apple, and with a UI based on HTML If you don't insist on the "Ubuntu" part, FirefoxOS offers everything you want, and is available on various devices right now: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/

any info on getting a shell/root/native code?

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by richardking »

fingerprinter wrote: post #74

From nearly every perspective, this seems like a no brainer. 1. The hardware they talked about would be better than anything out there now, most likely better than anything in 2014. 2. They mentioned dual boot. If you don't like Ubuntu, you can put on Android and have a better phone than anything out in the next year. 3. You'll get the first Ubuntu production phone. For $600 (today) or $830 (not today?) this is a fre…

all this is just words on paper right now- a competent marketing team can make any product sound amazing/indispensible. tack on the standard kickstarter/indiegogo delays, and this feels like as far from a no brainer as can be.

i don't see how you could trust any company, let alone a company making their first phone, with $600/$830 before seeing and playing with the software OR the hardware.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by RankHorror »

lukifer wrote: post #270
socceroos wrote: post #264

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It's worth noting that you don't lose your money if the funding fails - it will get refunded to you.

I think they're referring to the case where the funding succeeds. As a non-proud Esquiso owner (who doesn't regret the gamble), I can testify that hardware is hard. That said, my money's on these guys to pull it off. My only concern is quality control and support/maintenance.

That said, LOL!
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