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Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

no.

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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post #11

I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

Well, since the Commodore 64 wasn't released until I was 18 yrs old, my answer is no.

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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post #11

I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

No, and no.

A fair percentage of people who start developing software early end up being passed by people who started later. A seemingly large factor of this is kids learning bad habits on their own and not being able to correct them later, or having a much more difficult time correcting them. (I'm not saying that is the case here, just generally.)

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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post #11

I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

Nope! But it would be great if the general population had some proficiency in programming, even if they don't choose a career in computing.

My partner is an aspiring film maker, but knows how to parse a CSV in python and do pattern matching, he was looking for funding and needed to pull all of the "x.com" domains out of a giant spreadsheet .. for him, simple, export as CSV and string match the email field.

This simple skill alone, put him miles ahead of the other film makers in his class, the others were using "find" in excel and copy pasting, he was done in 15 minutes, the others took hours.

There's so many examples where account managers, secretaries, business analysts, chemical engineers etc benefit from simple data matching. They're not going to write the next facebook, and are not interested in a "programming" / "computing" career, but data extraction and simple programming is becoming a basic skill like reading and writing, and it's all good I say!

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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post #11

I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

You're missing the point. This is about reducing the barrier to entry to programming; not just by abolishing the standard stereotypes that only boys do it but by providing affordable computing for children in a way that they could feasible save their pocket money to buy a machine and get going.

I saved for my first machine when I was 14 by keeping my lunch money and only eating a bag of crisps a day for over a year; this kid doesn't have to do that..

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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Jimmy Wales is a role model, you must have modesty and defined objectives to build that humongous platform and refuse to monetize, his quotations of "The Fountainhead" made me read it, awesome, the man really is a Howard Roark.

Jimmy Wales did not build Wikipedia. Thousands upon thousands of unpaid volunteers did. As for Howard Roark, who is supposed to epitomize Ayn Rand's "virtue of selfishness" ideal, I don't remember him being any kind of philanthropist. If anything, he (like Rand) has nothing but contempt for the masses. Wikipedia would be the antithesis of what Roark would want to build. The Encyclopedia Britannica would be more to hi…

I also think the Marxist concept of owing "something" to the historic process is missing in a lot of extreme selfish philosophies.

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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post #11

I don't share his enthusiasm about this. Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age? Also, is an early start a guarantee that someone will choose a career in computing?

> Doesn't everyone interested in computers/computing start programming things that are actually useful at roughly that age?

Sure, lots of people do, but it's nice to listen to her talk about it all the same.

There was one part: "Although it sometimes may be hard, or your programs sometimes won't work, once you do get it to work you feel really happy."

I thought that part was nice.

Re: Jimmy Wales: This is super cool. "I started to learn python..."

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Jimmy Wales is a role model, you must have modesty and defined objectives to build that humongous platform and refuse to monetize, his quotations of "The Fountainhead" made me read it, awesome, the man really is a Howard Roark.

Jimmy Wales did not build Wikipedia. Thousands upon thousands of unpaid volunteers did. As for Howard Roark, who is supposed to epitomize Ayn Rand's "virtue of selfishness" ideal, I don't remember him being any kind of philanthropist. If anything, he (like Rand) has nothing but contempt for the masses. Wikipedia would be the antithesis of what Roark would want to build. The Encyclopedia Britannica would be more to hi…

You could say the same about any business owner if you said thousands of paid employees built their business. Almost nobody builds something that lasts by themselves.
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