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Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by voltagex_ »

morsch wrote: post #221
nobodysfool wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There aren't much in the way of specs here. The screen will likely be 1024x768 or similar, seeing as how they say that they are shooting for around 300ppi in a 4.5in screen. The battery technology that they say they want is unproven, produced only in sample quantities, and has issues with the electrolyte expanding to 4x it's size (which they say will be fixed via carbon nanotubes, the latest 'magic pixie dust'). I am…

Here are the specs from the page -- were they added subsequently? Dual boot Ubuntu mobile OS and Android Fully integrated Ubuntu desktop PC when docked Fastest multi-core CPU, 4GB RAM, 128GB storage 4.5in 1,280 x 720 HD sapphire crystal display 8mp low-light rear camera, 2mp front camera Dual-LTE, dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4, NFC GPS, accelerometer, gyro, proximity sensor, compass, barometer Stereo speakers…

I wonder which will happen first, Google supporting BT4/LE on the phones that already have this built-in, or Canonical getting a phone built from scratch and having BT LE support?

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Post by ricardobeat »

rsynnott wrote: post #250

> at least 4GB of RAM This seems... odd, or the 'at least' bit does. The first 64bit ARM chips are due late next year, and will be very much server-targeted.

You're thinking AMD?

Current ARM processors already support up to 1TB of RAM via something called "Large Physical Address Extension".

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by zombio »

audeyisaacs wrote: post #175
javis wrote: post #71

If the Ubuntu Edge reaches its goal of $32,000,000, Indiegogo makes $1,280,000 off it.

I wonder why they wouldn't just set up their own crowdfunding page for this project. Surely the effort would be worth $1,280,000.

People are more likely to contribute if it's on a platform they trust and recognize.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by dschiptsov »

Something must be wrong here.) If it such a good idea, then there will be a long queue of big shot investors, like that one before the Apple store.

It seems that Canonical have only good concepts, but not a world-class engineering team (like Google's) to make it real.

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Post by primelens »

sublimit wrote: post #188
shock wrote: post #131

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I would downvote you if I could. I'm pretty tired of seeing snark like this and thinking how many people get discouraged of trying something new and bold for fear it would be met with an attitude like yours. Piss off.

Except it's not "new and bold", it's literally Ubuntu on a smartphone for far above the market price. Add some marketing buzzwords about how it will revolutionize computing and people start seeing clothes on the emperor.

I don't know if they'll pull off the desktop integration, but meanwhile can you recommend a phone I can put into a dock and work on as a desktop PC. That seems pretty new and bold to me.

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Post by jussij »

YokoZar wrote: post #263
Guvante wrote: post #258

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What bond has that high of an interest rate? I am seeing 0.3% annual rates for US bonds right now. (And that is for 2 year bonds, not very good for 1-3 month lags)

Even if you only need the money for a year, there is no reason you can't buy 30 year bonds and sell them later. Short term treasury bonds get a much lower price because they are dominated by buyers that are obligated to buy them for some reason (they've even had negative interest rates in the past).

> there is no reason you can't buy 30 year bonds and sell them later.

Except, there are no guarantees the price you get on the sale of those bonds will be the same as the price you initially payed.

The possibilities are you might get your money back, you might make money or you might lose money on that sale.

Edit: In fact as can be seen by the graph below the yield on 30 Year T-Bonds is going up, indicating the price of the bond is falling (as the price moves inversly to the yield).

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/30_year

NOTE: See the 6m curve from link above

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Post by infinii »

Currently they are at $3.2M which is only 10% of their target. Yet the $600 level is sold out. If they had removed the cap on $600 orders, I could see this getting funded. But not if they expect the bulk of their money to come in at the $830 level.

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Post by socillion »

synchronise wrote: post #262
seabrookmx wrote: post #215

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The S4 has a 1080p screen (better than the edge) a Quad (comparable to the edge) and with SD cards, can be expanded to 128gb of storage on the cheap. Not to mention the app selection for Android is unbeatable. Sure it didn't have many apps in the early days, but because it was one of the first to market, it will retain this lead. Look at HP's touchpad, BB10, and Windows Phone - they've had years to catch up and have…

The Nexua 4 is a no brainer? The lack of MicroSD expansion says otherwise.

The battery is also mediocre, at least with stock Android.

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Post by Casc »

A bit late to the party on this post -

I think the next shift we see in mobile will be anointing the phone as the arbiter of identity vs the current situation in which our desktop / laptop OS user loosely holds the title.

I've previously expressed affinity for a future in which a device (smartphone) becomes a wallet for saving state, identity, data & applications all served by an OS that adapts based on operating environments while maintaining familiar UI/UX. This is the closest implementation I've yet to see (smart phone driving extensions and adapting to its environment by allowing full desktop OS), and I hope funding comes through just so we can inch a bit closer to making this reality.

Dropbox / cloud storage / iCloud have taken great strides in reducing the friction involved in types of device to device transitions, but we're still not truly mobile, and I'm not convinced they're the solution as opposed to being supplementary. Saving state, using your phone as identity, and carrying your data & applications with you is, what I believe, the next iteration of mobile.

Whether this information transfer is accomplished by associating devices together via the lan, a physical connection, or what have you, I feel there needs to be a physical badge component in transferring identity, and the smartphone may be it. A two factor auth of sorts for your digital self between your smartphone and a 'dumber' device.

Consider the possibilities in cars; no more fighting that quirky car UI to get directions or search through a music library. Parental controls ensuring new drivers don't drive at extreme speeds or attempt to text while driving. Abolishing keys. All possible when you have a portable device equipped with identity attributes working in conjunction with other devices and their input extensions.

28.8mm to go!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4094318

http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/28/apple-patent-would-use-the-...

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Post by vog »

grey-area wrote: post #52
cs702 wrote: post #43

The $32 million fundraising goal might seem overly ambitious, but it's actually more realistic than it appears at first glance, because at $600+ per unit the campaign needs only around 50,000 buyers worldwide to be successful -- or a bit over 2% of Ubuntu's enthusiastic user base, which was estimated to be greater than 20 million in 2011.[1] PS. I just ordered one, as I LOVE the idea of an unlocked phone designed and…

I've ordered one too, because I really like the sound of a Phone OS based on Ubuntu, not controlled by the likes of Google and Apple, and with a UI based on HTML. The proposed UI and demo apps look nice, I like the idea of losing the chrome as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7QbCqFY7Y It's going up quite fast, from 167k to 198k as I finish writing this, but I'm not sure if they'll make their target, just beca…

> based on Ubuntu, not controlled by the likes of Google and Apple, and with a UI based on HTML

If you don't insist on the "Ubuntu" part, FirefoxOS offers everything you want, and is available on various devices right now:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/

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