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Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Could you imagine if people could make the kind of money developing things for Linux that they do developing things for iOS? It would make comments like yours kind of funny and relevant.

Android (Linux) has surpassed iOS in number of users worldwide.

True. But the reality is far more complicated than that. In order to compare the two objectively (this is from the perspective of a developer, but many of the same factors also apply for end users), you also have to take into account things like the number of users that buy apps, app store fragmentation, how your software will fare in each store, and a whole host of other technical and market factors that are frequently discussed here.

I realize this might not be what you're saying, so I'll slay a misinterpretation for those that might hold it: going only by the sheer number of users on a platform alone does not mean that it is going to be a good idea for you to develop for it.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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If it weren't Sunday, I wouldn't speculate, but it is. My 2 cents: iOS7 updates galore. Just imagine everything that could be overhauled. Even the old gray textured background we see is not very much like iOS 7. iOS is in a big transition here. You can't even update apps at all unless you now include 'widescreen' support, for example. If you don't, iTunes reports an Invalid Binary (no default 586 image, etc). So I wo…

Wouldn't they offer a warning that the dev center would be down if it's just a design overhaul?

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Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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If it weren't Sunday, I wouldn't speculate, but it is. My 2 cents: iOS7 updates galore. Just imagine everything that could be overhauled. Even the old gray textured background we see is not very much like iOS 7. iOS is in a big transition here. You can't even update apps at all unless you now include 'widescreen' support, for example. If you don't, iTunes reports an Invalid Binary (no default 586 image, etc). So I wo…

So I would guess a huge overhaul, and typical Apple, is taking care of that vs. arguing or commenting on theories. A design overhaul wouldn't require the dev centre to go down at all - they could just prepare all the assets etc on testing servers and switch them over when they are ready. Given the normal warning given on any maintenance, and the obvious negative consequences for Apple's business of any extended outag…

Maybe they deleted all the copies of the both new and old developer centres so are having to rebuild it all from scratch.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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You do realize that the majority of the smartphones in the world run Linux?

The kernel. Everything else from libc on up was rewritten, and under Google's control. The Play store is hardly in AOSP, much less their new IntelliJ-based development stack.

The Play Store along with all the other Google Experience apps like gMail and Maps is not in AOSP. Google has no obligation to open-source those, nor do they want to.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Just use Qt. Works brilliantly, great API and documentation, and gets you 95% of the way to Windows versions and 85% of the way on OS X too. On OS X you'll have issues with native painting within OpenGL drawing and maybe event throttling / reordering for mouse / pen tablet events that you have to install a manual event filter for to fix, as OS X doesn't always send input mouse/keyboard events in the correct order.

Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app. If you have any solid competition in the market from a company willing to produce a native app, you'll lose to them. No wonder you're having issues on OS X.

Not all customers are design snobs. Some buy things because it does the task well.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Just use Qt. Works brilliantly, great API and documentation, and gets you 95% of the way to Windows versions and 85% of the way on OS X too. On OS X you'll have issues with native painting within OpenGL drawing and maybe event throttling / reordering for mouse / pen tablet events that you have to install a manual event filter for to fix, as OS X doesn't always send input mouse/keyboard events in the correct order.

Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app. If you have any solid competition in the market from a company willing to produce a native app, you'll lose to them. No wonder you're having issues on OS X.

Mathematica on OS X uses Qt, I've never seen a complaint about it vs. using Cocoa.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app. If you have any solid competition in the market from a company willing to produce a native app, you'll lose to them. No wonder you're having issues on OS X.

Not all customers are design snobs. Some buy things because it does the task well.

A better user interface _is_ "doing the task well". Functionality and design are not exclusive from each other.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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If it weren't Sunday, I wouldn't speculate, but it is. My 2 cents: iOS7 updates galore. Just imagine everything that could be overhauled. Even the old gray textured background we see is not very much like iOS 7. iOS is in a big transition here. You can't even update apps at all unless you now include 'widescreen' support, for example. If you don't, iTunes reports an Invalid Binary (no default 586 image, etc). So I wo…

If it were a design overhaul, it would be instant. Just do a `git pull` and restart the internet-facing servers. It also wouldn't take days.

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Nobody on OS X wants a Qt app. If you have any solid competition in the market from a company willing to produce a native app, you'll lose to them. No wonder you're having issues on OS X.

Mathematica on OS X uses Qt, I've never seen a complaint about it vs. using Cocoa.

I have. It used to use X11, I saw even more complaints then.

There aren't any competitors, however, so people use Mathematica.

I use high-end expensive that are Qt-only too, but I would gladly switch if there were other options, because Qt is buggy, uses non-intuitive non-standard UI, exhibits poor performance due to impedance mismatches between the Mac and Qt event/threading models, and ultimately decreases overall utility of the UX.

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