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Apple Developer Center still down

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Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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I would be very interested to see what the implications would be if this had happened to iCloud.

I'm sure Apple are as unhappy about whatever has happened as the rest of us (likely much more so), but I think at least some communication from them about it would be in order.

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Could you imagine if the Linux Developer Center went down? It'd be nearly impossible to write Linux software, or download Linux development tools, or generate a Linux binary that a device was allowed to run. It'd be awful.

Could you imagine if people could make the kind of money developing things for Linux that they do developing things for iOS? It would make comments like yours kind of funny and relevant.

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Could you imagine if the Linux Developer Center went down? It'd be nearly impossible to write Linux software, or download Linux development tools, or generate a Linux binary that a device was allowed to run. It'd be awful.

This is more like if Ubuntu's package repository went down regarding accepting new packages for a few days.

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My money is personally on massive, unrecoverable data loss. If you've ever poked around with the way that Apple's website works, you can see that the entire place is a huge mess. There's old servers running ancient (pre-2004) perl scripts alongside the brand new iCloud gear. I can't imagine how the authentication for AppleID is working as login details still work on the ancient pages (think pinstripes and glassy butt…

Interesting; the http://devimages.apple.com/ URL seems to return the underlying contents of the file, bypassing the SSI (I'm so happy they use SSI... seriously: I love SSI ;P). You can then see the raw directives, and pull the individual parts. (It isn't quite then fair to say that it is a "broken bit of their template system"; it is more that it is a poor way to setup a static large-file caching endpoint, and may it…

Ah, I didn't recognise Server Side Includes, I've never used them before.

There's a lot more weird around apple.com if you go looking. I'd love to hear the story behind their MX/SMTP hostnames (thousands of them) getting called "badger" and "msbadger".

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Could you imagine if the Linux Developer Center went down? It'd be nearly impossible to write Linux software, or download Linux development tools, or generate a Linux binary that a device was allowed to run. It'd be awful.

Can you imagine writing desktop software for Linux? Inconsistent APIs, API breakage, ABI breakage, sizable variances between distributions, multiple desktops UI implementations, and you may as well just forget about mobile.

I'm not justifying Apple's ever increasing shift towards enacting strict constraints on their platform developers, but the comparison with Linux is pointless.

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> or device provisioning and certificates (potentially very profitable)

Well, an `App'(, the name of which I would not like to identify, ) which was installed using Safari exploits and whose intended use is to help users search and install apps free of charge from AppStore, is still up and running.

I guess there exist various exploits up and down the App Store chains, till now.

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If it weren't Sunday, I wouldn't speculate, but it is. My 2 cents: iOS7 updates galore. Just imagine everything that could be overhauled. Even the old gray textured background we see is not very much like iOS 7.

iOS is in a big transition here. You can't even update apps at all unless you now include 'widescreen' support, for example. If you don't, iTunes reports an Invalid Binary (no default 586 image, etc).

So I would guess a huge overhaul, and typical Apple, is taking care of that vs. arguing or commenting on theories.

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Could you imagine if the Linux Developer Center went down? It'd be nearly impossible to write Linux software, or download Linux development tools, or generate a Linux binary that a device was allowed to run. It'd be awful.

Nice attempt at snark, but something being fault-proof in this regard doesn't magically make it worthy in others. Like desktop use, for one. People will not adopt Linux for their desktop/laptop even when offered for free. Where by people I mean more than 1% of them.

Yeah well its not like computers ship without OS so your point does not really make sense. And its not like Linux has marketing unlike all other OSes out there. When you want to compare stuff you got to have similar factors in place otherwise it does not make sense.

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If it weren't Sunday, I wouldn't speculate, but it is. My 2 cents: iOS7 updates galore. Just imagine everything that could be overhauled. Even the old gray textured background we see is not very much like iOS 7. iOS is in a big transition here. You can't even update apps at all unless you now include 'widescreen' support, for example. If you don't, iTunes reports an Invalid Binary (no default 586 image, etc). So I wo…

Wouldn't they offer a warning that the dev center would be down if it's just a design overhaul?

Re: Apple Developer Center still down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like "I just read the title so I could post a snarky remark". He does put some suggestions forward of what he thinks could be the root cause.

I read the whole article. The suggestions cover all the cases one would that thought himself. He is being Captain Obvious. Including the gem to "set some time aside" as developers, because we might have some work to do after the site comes back up. Everything in the comment is what men wiser than us called "idle speculation".

If you don't like reading idle speculation then you should probably avoid 95% of tech blogs.
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