Switching from Gmail to FastMail • Hacker News Board

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by stock_toaster » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 4:38 AM UTC

hillbillyjack wrote: post #162

kisielk wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that work for IMAP access? Do you have an "application-specific password" like Google does, or just your regular password?

It doesn't exactly work like gmail does. You can set many alternative login passwords in fastmail and the google auth is one of those. So with the google auth you use your google auth fastmail password and append your google auth login so if your password is Password1, when you login you would be typing something like Password1123456 to login. You can also set other login passwords for applications or imap with or wi…

I believe pop/imap/smtp require "full access" type "regular" passwords.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by monkey26 » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 5:55 AM UTC

Are most of you happy with Fastmail's pricing? I'd really like to switch away from Google apps for my families email needs, but would much rather pay $X for a domain and diskspace, and then create accounts as needed.

The family plan seems overpriced as well, as I'm the only one who needs large disk space, the other 3 accounts don't need so much.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by monkey26 » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 5:56 AM UTC

monkey26 wrote: post #202

Are most of you happy with Fastmail's pricing? I'd really like to switch away from Google apps for my families email needs, but would much rather pay $X for a domain and diskspace, and then create accounts as needed. The family plan seems overpriced as well, as I'm the only one who needs large disk space, the other 3 accounts don't need so much.

Oops, just noticed that not all accounts need to be the same capacity. That saves a few dollars.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by monkey26 » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 6:01 AM UTC

johngalt wrote: post #123

Tried fastmail and wasn't impressed. Rackspace email is a great choice. Its cheap and fast. Outages are rare. Has active sync support and IMAP push works on android/iPhone. Rackspace also allows you to run exchange mailboxes alongside IMAP if you have a few users who are still tied to outlook.

How's the Rackspace web UI?

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by monkey26 » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 6:07 AM UTC

So, is there a market for a hosted email solution with a killer web ui that is not hosted in the US? How about Canada? Just wondering if there is an opportunity here for a non-US startup.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by kayoone » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 7:08 AM UTC

monkey26 wrote: post #205

So, is there a market for a hosted email solution with a killer web ui that is not hosted in the US? How about Canada? Just wondering if there is an opportunity here for a non-US startup.

i dont think so. Its not like Reader which was shut down, gmail will operate like it always has and most people wont bother to switch or simply dont know anything about PRISM/NSA etc.

The noise on HN regarding this is extreme because this is a community of people who are really passionate about these topics, most people are not though.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by tujv » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 7:21 AM UTC

matthewdavis wrote: post #187

tippytop wrote: post #134

Snowden used lavabit.com, which is located in the US (and probably being scrutinized a bit more than usual these days). I think it's more important to diversify services than to insist on airtight alternatives. My mail is not terribly exciting, but when combined with the rest of my searches, visited webpages [1], chats, news reading habits, social network connections, and phone location, all housed under Google's roo…

>Snowden used lavabit.com, which is located in the US (and probably being scrutinized a bit more than usual these days). Any proof to this? And, no, twitter is not a source of record.

http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_07_12/Snowdens-letter-to-hu...

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by pilif » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 7:31 AM UTC

> MailMate and it's interesting thread hierarchy view.

How times change. This is how message threading has always worked before we got gmail and Mail.app which I have resisted switching to for years because the just didn't do threading "right".

And now get off my lawn :-)

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by jes5199 » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 7:43 AM UTC

I actually use gmail's "Priority Inbox" - I'm not into "Inbox Zero", most of my mail I never read. So I like that gmail lets the real human people I talk to regularly pop up into a special zone. I've got my phone set to only make a noise when I get email in Priority Inbox.

So sadly, I think gmail still has what's basically a killer app for me.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by pyvek » Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 8:02 AM UTC

jmcatani wrote: post #179

pyvek wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing to note is that even if servers aren't located in US, data may be routed through there. Traceroute from my home connection (in India) to a Singapore IP looks like: India -> US -> Japan -> US -> Japan -> Singapore I'm not saying that the NSA has forced other countries to route their data through them. It could be due to several other reasons. But the main point is that it is hard to escape the NSA. Even…

Out of curiosity, is there direct fiber from India to the US?

No, I couldn't find about any direct fiber [1] between India and US. But somehow while tracerout'ing, the very next hop after my ISP is a Los Angeles based IP. Another thing to note is that there are three direct fiber connecting India and Singapore but it is not being used by my ISP (BSNL).

[1] http://www.submarinecablemap.com/