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Re: Apple Dev Center outage

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Post by spartango »

ferdo wrote: post #53
res0nat0r wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for the AWS EBS outage a couple of years ago which had nothing to do with a security breach. http://aws.amazon.com/message/65648/ Cascading catastrophic failures do happen that don't involve security.

I'd think that Apple would be happy to tell us it was a simple power/network failure were that the case. Sudden shutdown of vital service + silence = most likely a security prob. I'm not saying that's what it is but it seems likely.

Silence really doesn't imply anything except that the responsible parties are busy fixing things and that there may not be hands free/allocated to communicate with the outside world.

IMO not communicating with the outside world is a fail, but I've seen delays in this when small teams suddenly get swamped.

Re: Apple Dev Center outage

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Post by riazrizvi »

peterkelly wrote: post #41

Wait, does this mean the entire Cloud is down? I can still access Google and Amazon.

Correct. The entire cloud, aka internet, is down. The only reason you can access Google and Amazon is because of the latent electricity in their data centers' cabling. It's just a matter of time before they go dark too. Good luck.

Re: Apple Dev Center outage

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Post by ctdonath »

warcher wrote: post #45

Something real, real bad happened down Apple way. The only explanation that passes the sniff test for me is a security breach. A big one. Playstation store big. I mean, it's a huge outage in the middle of the week. Nobody does that if something hasn't gone disastrously wrong. And iffy as Apple's web infrastructure historically has been, it's hard to imagine a system malfunction that they couldn't route around in some…

Well, apply the standard Apple social introversion: it's down, they're telling you it's down and will be for a while, it will be back up as soon as they can fix it, what exactly is wrong isn't your problem, when it's back up you'll know and it won't matter what happened so long as it gets up and stays up.

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Post by smuckfordshire »

nwh wrote: post #29
smuckfordshire wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or download the command line tools! The downside of all this nice Xcode integration.

http://techytoolbox.com/clt/xcode452cltools10_86938211a.dmg The URI is from https://github.com/jwaldrip/dev-setup/blob/master/setup_envi... , which looks trustworthy enough. Use at your own risk though.

Thanks! Looking for a later version, but appreciate the help.

Re: Apple Dev Center outage

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Post by warcher »

ctdonath wrote: post #65
warcher wrote: post #45

Something real, real bad happened down Apple way. The only explanation that passes the sniff test for me is a security breach. A big one. Playstation store big. I mean, it's a huge outage in the middle of the week. Nobody does that if something hasn't gone disastrously wrong. And iffy as Apple's web infrastructure historically has been, it's hard to imagine a system malfunction that they couldn't route around in some…

Well, apply the standard Apple social introversion: it's down, they're telling you it's down and will be for a while, it will be back up as soon as they can fix it, what exactly is wrong isn't your problem, when it's back up you'll know and it won't matter what happened so long as it gets up and stays up.

Well, the App Store is how I make my living, so their developer portal's uptime directly affects me. Especially if it was a security breach.

And the argument that it won't matter as long as it gets up and stays up has already been invalidated by this outage. If they were perfectly in control, this wouldn't have happened. So we know for a fact that they are not 100% in control of the website. (I mean, obviously, 100% control is a mathematical impossibility.) But how much less? What happened? If it was an hour, or even two, I'd let it ride as a cost of running a big-ass data center. But this... warrants an explanation.

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