Does anyone out there know of something similar to FastMail (or gmail) that is self hosted? I've been dying for a fast, modern webmail app that I can host myself, but everything I've tried is just terrible (by comparison).
Switching from Gmail to FastMail
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#102I just disabled the 'promotions' tab, and it also disabled it on my android client. If they start sneaking ads in as real email, I'm gone. If I can disable the ads, I'll probably hang out for a bit longer, but it's time to start evaluating alternatives.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. If the servers are in the US, or any of the NSA-tained countries like Australia, somebody is reading it.
Can you please tell me where you think a server needs to be located were you would consider to be "safe." Please note that every European country also falls into the will be happy to spy on someone camp.
Please note that every European country also falls into the will be happy to spy on someone camp.
Privacy laws vary a lot within Europe - even within EU - and while I'm sure every country in the world is "happy to spy", as you put it, I can't think of any European country save for the UK whose spying is as intensive as NSA's.
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#105I installed http://www.iredmail.org/ on a five buck a month Droplet at DigitalOcean around six months ago. Seems to work great and I control it. I never use Roundcube. I use IMAP from the built in Mail.app on OS X. There is even a tutorial to set everything up. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-insta...
What about backups? I don't worry about Gmail backing up my email (though I probably should), but is there some way to get iRedMail to send encrypted backups to S3 regularly or something?
Backups every few days on a DO server like that costs about $1/mo I believe.
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#106Another alternative is http://www.runbox.com/ - hosted entirely in Norway which has strong privacy laws.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Google Apps business model, and all Google Enterprise products for that matter, do not rely on ads for revenue. Google sells their business customers a product and generates revenue through those sales. The TOS protects your data.
Perhaps you didn't understand my point. Google could easily decide to serve ads to paying customers, and it seems likely that they've left this option open to exercise later. The fact that they apparently "do not rely on ads" is irrelevant. There are plenty of existent services that have revenue from customers, but still serve ads (visible examples include: pay-TV, public transport)
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#108This is a false dichotomy and an unfair one. Firstly, fastmail is a paid product that may show you graphic ads if you are using their free tier. (https://www.fastmail.fm/help/advertising_web_interface_ads.h...)
To those who are arguing about advertisements not showing up in the Fastmail's paid tiers should also realize that there is the Google Apps for Business accounts, where you don't see ads. It also beats the popular 'if you are paying you are the product meme'.
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#110American company, American servers, American jurisdiction. Sure they won't read your email, but the NSA will (just like Gmail.) Update: hmm, so Opera aren't american? interesting. All the servers are definitely in the US though: > "we have standard servers and a high speed connection in the US." - https://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_about.html
There are two ways the NSA can collect your email: fiber taps sucking up unencrypted SMTP connections, and "direct" collection from servers/FISA orders etc. Ironically if your email provider is in another country it's much more likely that emails to and from the US will be captured.
It would be interesting to setup a mail service with numerous SMTP relays around the world and attempt to connect the "closest" (least likely to be eavesdropped) relay to 3rd party SMTP servers. Communication between the relays and the main service (which stores your email in a friendly jurisdiction) would be strongly encrypted.