Switching from Gmail to FastMail • Hacker News Board

adestefan wrote: post #7

tehwalrus wrote: post #5

American company, American servers, American jurisdiction. Sure they won't read your email, but the NSA will (just like Gmail.) Update: hmm, so Opera aren't american? interesting. All the servers are definitely in the US though: > "we have standard servers and a high speed connection in the US." - https://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_about.html

Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Nice try though to inject a completely worthless comment.

Their servers are located in the US according to the article.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by nly » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

jackreichert wrote: post #3

The fact that they even offer 200mb and 800mb plans makes it hard for me to take them seriously. Shame.

Some people won't pay $50/year/user for email, I know my parents won't. I had a hell of a time even getting them to move away from ISP provided mail to GApps. Neither of them have managed to use more than 300MB in 3-4 years.

In any case, an account with 8 GB of email storage and 6 GB of file storage (Family account), or 10+2GB (personal account) is still cheaper than Googles 'one plan' service.

Google just aren't interested in marketing GApps to enthusiasts and families.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by lloeki » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:55 PM UTC

> MailMate and it's interesting thread hierarchy view.

How is it different from the threaded view that has been present since at least Netscape days?

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:56 PM UTC

Kurts wrote: post #8

I think it's fair to assume that HN is a fairly technical community and could manage such a feat on its own, so these: "here is how to switch from [insert Google service] to its competitor" posts strike me as karma-bait (and they do get votes). As to these ads you're so troubled by: Twitter ads look like tweets, Facebook ads look like Facebook posts, and of course search ads look like search results, at least in Gmai…

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Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by bowlofpetunias » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:56 PM UTC

> their servers are in New York

For us as a European business, that's a dealbreaker. It's not that we are completely paranoid and migrating off of American systems in a big hurry, but moving forward, not in the US and not owned by an American company is a requirement for any new service we use.

Even if we didn't care, we have to take into account our clients, and "no data under US control" has become not just a selling point, but a strict condition for many projects.

This was already very much the case before the PRISM scandal, and it's only going to get worse now.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by masnick » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:57 PM UTC

rocky1138 wrote: post #12

Am I the only one here that doesn't care about Gmail ads? I don't even notice them.

My point is that if you don't like Gmail ads, you should investigate switching to something else. I feel like many people are uncomfortable with the ads but might feel locked in.

I actually don't care that Google is machine-reading email to serve ads (see http://www.maxmasnick.com/2012/02/12/gmail_paranoia/), but I do care about polluting the interface with ads that look like email for the same reason I don't like the new compose interface. Both make the interface worse, and email is bad enough as it is without bad UI.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by masnick » Fri, Jul 19, 2013, 1:58 PM UTC

lloeki wrote: post #16

> MailMate and it's interesting thread hierarchy view. How is it different from the threaded view that has been present since at least Netscape days?

All the UIs I've seen in the last several years present threads flat (without any hierarchy). If there are other modern mail clients that have this kind of UI, I'd love to see them.