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Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
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Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? As long as it stays in "promotions" tab, I could care less, as this is where they belong. If that's the case that's actually a smart move to introduce in-maillist ads without polluting the "real" inbox. As soon as they flow out of that bucket, we're entering Twitter's dickbar levels of dorkiness.
I still have to keep all of my inboxes at zero. Every inbox must still be checked in case there is something mis-directed. I go out of my way to unsubscribe from most promotions, so no, even in the promotions box this is not welcome for me.
If you are following an inbox zero approach (as I am), then there's not much point in using the sectioned inbox IMO. I guess it might be useful if you receive tons of email and you want to sort of go through it in an ordered manner, but normally I tend to unsubscribe from things I am not interested in, so there are little or no messages in the other sections.
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#113Cue: If you're not the customer, you're the product. For balance: linux and open source in general.
What do linux and open source have to do with this at all?
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#114So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.
Did you pay for it? No. Quit complaining, pay for it (Google Apps), or move on.
I don't think I buy this idea, and I don't think most honest developers would either. People want to know when their users aren't happy with their service, and they especially want to know if they're feeling alienated.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?
Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig. The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor). I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial. [1] http://fastmail.fm/
I've been using fastmail for two or three years, not sure. They're a very good service for a surprisingly small amount of money.
I see anywhere from zero to two spams in my inbox per day. I just move them over to my learn spam folder.
I just checked, and I have 270 spam messages in my junk folder since July 1.
I use their https web interface at work, not bad, nothing special. I use thunderbird over imap at home.
So in exchange for about $10 or $20 per year (depends on your service level), and the occasional need to tell fastmail "this message is spam, remember that for similar messages," I get an excellent imap service that is not gmail and not google. I'm a customer, not a product, and I'm very happy.
EDIT: corrected how many junk I have. It's 270 since July 1. It's about 1000 since June 22. They delete junk after awhile. I just combed through the 1000 and moved 9 into the "this is not junk, remember that" folder.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? As long as it stays in "promotions" tab, I could care less, as this is where they belong. If that's the case that's actually a smart move to introduce in-maillist ads without polluting the "real" inbox. As soon as they flow out of that bucket, we're entering Twitter's dickbar levels of dorkiness.
I still have to keep all of my inboxes at zero. Every inbox must still be checked in case there is something mis-directed. I go out of my way to unsubscribe from most promotions, so no, even in the promotions box this is not welcome for me.
You can disable all the tabs and return to your normal inbox.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?
Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig. The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor). I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial. [1] http://fastmail.fm/
I looked at Fastmail recently, but then I saw the Opera logo and hesitated. I want to know what would happen to them if Opera cannot maintain profitability. I'd like to know my mail provider is going to stick around a while.
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#118I wonder at what point the ads appear to have come from one of your legitimate contacts.
PS isn't faceboob already doing this?
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you pay for it? No. Quit complaining, pay for it (Google Apps), or move on.
I don't think I buy this idea, and I don't think most honest developers would either. People want to know when their users aren't happy with their service, and they especially want to know if they're feeling alienated.
That is true for most cases, but when shareholders and business come into the picture, the honest developers don't get a look in. It's shut up or don't get paid.
If Google lost 25% of its free userbase and converted only 10% of that 25% into Google Apps customers, and left the other 75% with advertising clicks it's a win situation for the business and shareholders.
Google is not immune to capitalism or business mantra unfortunately.
For reference, as an idealist and a bit of a Marxist, I'm not a fan of this but it's the way it is at the moment.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fastmail is pretty great.
I've just noticed the praise recently for this. Two dealbreakers for me: - No push on iPhone (as far as I can see) - No Calendar integration
Yeah, Apple doesn't support IMAP-IDLE which is a drag, so push is out. And you're right, there's no calendar. I also hear LDAP is read-only on devices, so you can't add to your Fastmail address book from your iPhone.
I personally don't use any of those things anyway but I can definitely understand why that would be a dealbreaker for a lot of people. It's great for email and the webmail interface got way better recently. Their blog is also pretty neat, they go into a fair bit of technical detail about new features and how they solved certain bugs: http://blog.fastmail.fm/2012/11/26/inter-tab-communication-u...