Wouldn't it be anti-competitive to block spam, yet let your own spam through? The ads in that screenshot look like they are effectively imitating spam.
Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
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Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
#42There needs to be a docker.io image with a (mostly) preconfigured mailserver, roundcube and PGP. Maybe it exists already? If not I might make one.
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#43I've tried outlook.com and it was OK. I wonder if this can help make hotmail relevant again.
I like some elements of iCloud for email, however its lack of settings (want to have your outgoing mail appear to come from john@doe.com? Tough) and terrible terrible search are a bit of deal breaker. How is the search so bad? I usually resort to just scrolling back through emails rather than use it.
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#44Yes, I saw this, but seems to be limited to the Promotions filtered tab which, well, an advert next to an advert. I'm kind of okay with that. But it does make you wonder if this is the start of a slippery slope.
I think this is a slippery slope. They are essentially unsolicited mail that you never asked for. Some people will genuinely use the promotions tab to receive email from companies for which they have requested promotions be sent to them. Google is getting a free ride without permission.
What makes you feel like they need any kind of permission? It's their product and they can damn well structure it how they want to.
You may not like it, and if you don't I strongly urge you to stop using their products.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is if Google were to do that, the value of their ads would plummet since the kind of people who would pay to opt out of ads are the same people who would be most likely to pay for things in ads. Not 100% sure but I think this is is the same reason TV companies don't want to offer their content for streaming online, and Hulu can't remove ads for its premium users.
I'd say it's exactly the reverse. The people who are most bothered by ads are the people to whom the ads provide the lowest value, and are thus the least likely to click them. For example, me.
I tend to agree with this. I rarely, if ever, click on ads because they seem interesting. I mostly see an ad and say "oh that is interesting, I was searching for cars before and now I'm being advertised cars on a music site, how completely useless".
The truth is I think Google's adsense business has never had any real true value to customers (except for perhaps their 'first page at the top' paid ads, I use them a lot, mostly because I figure companies willing to pay for ads usually are a likely 'proper solid business').
Most of the adsense these days is 'trick next buttons', where people put them at the bottom of a page that appears to be the 'next page' button, and it's not.
I spend absolute craptonnes of money of stuff I don't need. Internet advertisements I am exposed to contribute almost zero impact to my purchasing habits.
Except for Belroy wallets. I have no idea how they figured to target me ('hipster' programmer?), but I did end up buying a wallet from them when their ads followed me around for a while. And their products are nice :) But that is it!
I couldn't care less if they are giving backdoors to the NSA to all my email including all company crap that is confidential and all. If they put ads into my email I will look elsewhere unless there is a paid option.
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#46I'd love for Google to work out how much money they make from me in a year, and then to offer to go ad-free for 50% more than that. At least then I could make an informed decision.
If they ever did, they would have to admit that the "free" service is actually just an sale where the user pays for the service with data and ad-watching. Doing that, it would both be bad PR, and would catch the rage of tax officers as only "free" services are tax-free when given to customers.
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#47If this becomes a thing, I might actually switch to something else.
Yeah, I'll definately start searching for a good alternative. This is just unacceptable.
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#48I'd love for Google to work out how much money they make from me in a year, and then to offer to go ad-free for 50% more than that. At least then I could make an informed decision.
The problem is if Google were to do that, the value of their ads would plummet since the kind of people who would pay to opt out of ads are the same people who would be most likely to pay for things in ads. Not 100% sure but I think this is is the same reason TV companies don't want to offer their content for streaming online, and Hulu can't remove ads for its premium users.
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#49Given that this is avoidable by using any POP or IMAP client, I wonder how soon they'll close them down.
I'm pretty sure it's a matter of "when".
Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?
#50I've tried outlook.com and it was OK. I wonder if this can help make hotmail relevant again.
I like some elements of iCloud for email, however its lack of settings (want to have your outgoing mail appear to come from john@doe.com? Tough) and terrible terrible search are a bit of deal breaker. How is the search so bad? I usually resort to just scrolling back through emails rather than use it.
Seriously. I usually end up grabbing my iPhone and doing a search there instead of via the web interface. So, so bad.