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Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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For a bit more background on the history of this experiment and why the previous drips were missed, check out this recent Radiolab podcast: http://joshuafoer.com/radiolab-the-pitch-drop-experiment/

The Radiolab episode was about a similar experiment at the University of Queensland in Australia.

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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I sort of take issue with "experiment succeeds". You don't (shouldn't) set up an experiment to prove or disprove something, merely to discover. I'm sure the issue, if indeed there is one, is with the reporting not the scientists though.

substitute "ends" for "succeeds" if you're feeling pedantic. I think that for a decades long experiment the two words become synonyms.

It's still running!

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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I bet the grad student involved is celebrating now that they can finally submit their thesis

Woah woah woah, not so fast, Doctorate McPhdsosoon. Science is repeatable. See you at lab meeting next Monday morning. Please come prepared with a roadmap for phase 2 trials. These grants don't write themselves, you know.

Phase 2 would be continue to wait to see if the glass funnel would drip in order to prove whether glass is a solid or liquid.

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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Really? Scientists are people. Proving each other wrong is one of the biggest motivators to do years of painstaking, labour-intensive research. Of course, you can't prove someone wrong without being rigorous.

It gets finnier if you imagine Stephen Hawking saying "I told you so." to Leonard Susskind. D'OOOH... WERNSTROM!!!

You might find this to be "finny": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorne%E2%80%93Hawking%E2%80%93...

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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Um, not to take away from the achievement of the result, but couldn't this result have been obtained in much less time with higher force than 1G in, say, a centrifuge?

In other news students preferred "watching the pitch" over lectures by a margin of 2 to 1. :-)

They learned as the pitch flowed!

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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The title is misleading. The experiment did succeed before, it just hasn't been captured on camera.

Seriously, people did science before there were cameras, right? I think the drop splatted under the funnel is enough evidence to call it done.

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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The first thought that popped into my punny little brain was: Why didn't they use a centrifuge to accelerate results? The one variable that could be controlled is the gravitational force on the substance. If we were on the moon the experiment, as designed, would take far longer to produce a drop. By using a centrifuge they could have easily simulated significantly greater gravitational forces and arrived at a result…

Chemist here. We use centrifuging to separate components of a suspension by weight.

Pitch is a suspension. The heavy stuff would drop to the outside, the viscosity would be affected, no experiment.

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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down-to-earth experiments Bwahahahah!

Please keep the discussion constructive. No, there is no pun there.

Don't be so sanctimonious. Calling an experiment involving gravity "down to earth" is mildly amusing and is kind of a pun, albeit a feeble one. Much like your sense of humour it would appear.

Re: Trinity College experiment succeeds after 69 years

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I'm not sure it would be valid. At a million g's, I'm a liquid. But most people would broadly speaking classify me as a solid (albeit one containing a lot of liquid).

> At a million g's, I'm a liquid Not really. You'll disintegrate in strange ways based on the relative density of your constituent parts. : Another thought is that if you laid on a bed for 13 years (the time it took for a drop of pitch to form) without moving --ignoring tissue decay and other factors-- you'd probably "flow" just as you might in a high gravity environment. Gravity, like rust, never sleeps. Yet, unless…

I was admittedly being glib; obviously bone has different characteristics than fat. But characteristics can definitely unhappily change and I'd want an expert involved too.
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