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Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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Not to mention the whole "oh, you're asking for a lawyer, an innocent person would just talk to us, you must be our guy" bit.

Which doesn't go so well in court. Oh wait.. forceful decryption of private keys..

Well, supposedly TrueCrypt has plausible deniability, but I don't know if that's ever actually been tested in practice.

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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...which now means you need to spend money to protect yourself against a situation where you've done nothing wrong.

A lawyer might be provided pro bono -- but I completely agree with the point you're trying to make.

Public defenders are overworked and often unable to mount a sufficient defense.

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

#83

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A lawyer might be provided pro bono -- but I completely agree with the point you're trying to make.

Public defenders are overworked and often unable to mount a sufficient defense.

Oh, I'm well aware.

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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The other problem is that state laws aren't keeping up with law enforcement technology. FOIA-similar laws in Minnesota meant that every ALPR-captured license plate was public information, which I requested to prove a point. I got back 2.1 million license plates (+ timestamp and coordinates) on a USB stick. Without strong policies and laws, this data is ripe for abuse -- domestic abuse victims and stalking where someo…

Thank so much! I wish I could up-vote this comment more, you've given me so many wonderful ideas =D

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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If you don't like above said prospect, then maybe you should do those things in private instead of in public.

Ah, why didn't I think of that? We could all just be traveling entirely in private and this would be a non-issue.

I was speaking more to the "communications/personal finance" bits you mentioned.

You can't be wholly private. Merely by existing, people will be able to learn some things about you. Nothing you can do about it.

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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Despite being in public -- and on public streets -- I think anytime the government is tracking where I go, it should require probable cause and a judge's signature. I believe ALPR circumvents the judicial system. I use my cellphone in public, but it's obvious that the government shouldn't be able to automatically log when and where I placed a call. I use my credit card in public, but the government shouldn't be able…

If you're walking around in public, the government has the right to follow you around. In fact, everyone has the right to follow you around. Having cameras and drones around just means they got better at doing it.

I believe there is a limit to this. You can't continuously follow someone around making notes on everything they do because at some point you're likely to trigger some type of local harassment or stalking laws. Of which there is a legal recourse to handle this.

What this describes goes beyond that because there's apparently no legal recourse to deal with it. Well, I suppose that may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

Re: Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking

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Ah, why didn't I think of that? We could all just be traveling entirely in private and this would be a non-issue.

I was speaking more to the "communications/personal finance" bits you mentioned. You can't be wholly private. Merely by existing, people will be able to learn some things about you. Nothing you can do about it.

Sure, and by natural extension there are some people, whom you will never meet (or even be aware of their doing so), who will get to become intimately familiar with the aforementioned data, journalized and cross-referenced in handy tables and graphs. Indefinitely. Nothing you can do about it! Might as well just accept it. Really, all of this hubbub around privacy concerns is totally unfounded. It's the way things have to be.
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