While I agree with the general purpose and tone of the email, recruiters are not always a negative. I responded to cold "call" on LinkedIn a few years ago and it got me the (good) job I have today.
Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
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Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#32Here's mine: Hi there, Please remove all data pertaining to myself or Happy Bear Software from your systems and refrain from contacting me again. Any future correspondence including a reply to this email will be reported as spam. Kind Regards, Honestly, a developer who's taken a flick through a book about sales and marketing (e.g. Ultimate Sales Machine) would do a fantastically better job of selling recruitment serv…
I once tried this with a recruiter, and they got very testy with me in a new email, accusing me of wasting their time. ha ha ha. needless to say, I did not respond further.
Same for me, except I was also accused of not knowing how to "network."
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#33Why is there not some way to disrupt this industry??? It is maddening that these people even exist. How is normal to take 35% of someone's salary for 6 months because you got to them first at the right time? How is it ethical to whittle a starry eyed junior down to 30 bucks an hour so you can take 60 or 70 plus? There has to be a way simpler way to connect folks to jobs in this day and age. ...Sorry, it just gets to…
$30 an hour is about $60,000 a year which is a pretty good starting salary. An amazing one in my part of the country where $45k is the average just-out-school salary.
And all the recruiters I've dealt with are paid a flat fee by the hiring company, they don't take a percentage of pay. Then again I've never worked directly for a recruiting agency, either.
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#34I've gotten a couple customized recruiting emails recently where they actually looked up my background and thoughtfully explained they the position would be a great fit.
I was impressed, and I figured the least I could do is write back and ask for more information. Well, it's been two weeks and I haven't heard back from either person! It's almost like the twilight-light zone. Why spend all that time researching and writing to someone only to never respond again?
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#35I get a lot of recruitment spam from India based companies. In fact it seems as though they've taken over the low end of the market. Typically they open with a vague description of a position that "matches your qualifications", then ask for a set of answers including number of years of experience in ten skills and my expected rate.
This approach to recruitment may work for some segments of the market, but it's pointless for me. I used to actually respond to such inquiries when the market was very slow and I was getting desperate, but they almost never followed up, so I stopped wasting my time.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. The good times are not going to last forever. Then we'll see how happy the recruiters are to talk to you if you've been an arrogant arse in the past.
(good) Software Engineer demand isn't likely to drop in the future I assume. Except if Skynet takes over and writes code by itself.
There are two sides to supply and demand.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#37I share your exasperation and agree that while I hold back such emotions, sometimes I am tempted to reply back in a bit offensive manner. And I have never replied to any such mails in past, not doing it in present, nor I am inclined to do this in future. But I cannot agree with your second point in Additionally section. The recruiters are doing their jobs, whether or not just sending cold emails. They are not obligat…
> They are not obligated to understand or even know the 'work style of engineers'. Salespeople (which is effectively what recruiters are) are not obligated to know anything about their product or customers. But it can really help.
> Salespeople (which is effectively what recruiters are) are not obligated to know anything about their product or customers. But it can really help.
Maybe they aren't, but the degree to which one understands the product one is selling is the degree I treat them as a helpful person instead of lying, malicious fraud. If you don't understand anything about the product you're selling, then every single word you utter in favour of it is a blatant lie.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#38Here's mine: Hi there, Please remove all data pertaining to myself or Happy Bear Software from your systems and refrain from contacting me again. Any future correspondence including a reply to this email will be reported as spam. Kind Regards, Honestly, a developer who's taken a flick through a book about sales and marketing (e.g. Ultimate Sales Machine) would do a fantastically better job of selling recruitment serv…
I once tried this with a recruiter, and they got very testy with me in a new email, accusing me of wasting their time. ha ha ha. needless to say, I did not respond further.
I get that all the time. I politely remind them that I made a commitment to report their reply as spam, so it would be unethical of me not to.
Never engage with them directly. They're a time sink, and they never have your interests at heart. I manage all comms with them through gmail canned responses.
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#39First world problems: "I get too many job opportunities from recruiters."
There are a lot of people right now who would be thrilled to receive these emails from recruiters, and would reply to every one. Why burn the bridge with a snarky response? Maybe one day you could be one of those people.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#40I've gotten a couple customized recruiting emails recently where they actually looked up my background and thoughtfully explained they the position would be a great fit. I was impressed, and I figured the least I could do is write back and ask for more information. Well, it's been two weeks and I haven't heard back from either person! It's almost like the twilight-light zone. Why spend all that time researching and w…
My hunch is that the recruiter got an answer from someone sooner than you and is pushing that one candidate hard, leaving you as a backup if that other person doesn't work out. They're always hedging their bets.