Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore • Hacker News Board

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by beefman » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 2:59 AM UTC

vorporeal wrote: post #25

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Social and Promotions should basically just contain the "unimportant crap". If something is mis-categorized, you can drag it to the correct section and Gmail should learn from its mistake. Also, as mentioned below, you can revert to the un-tabbed inbox by going to the Inbox section of the settings and disabling all tabs other than Primary, or by selecting one of the split inboxes (Unread first, Priority, etc). Discla…

> and Gmail should learn from its mistake

Do you mean "Policy is against giving users any meaningful ability to train their filters, but if Neptune is in the Third House, Gmail might learn from its mistake"?

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:09 AM UTC

babuskov wrote: post #26

VikingCoder wrote: post #4

- Get a 1920x1080 monitor. No, really. Decent ones are cheap and awesome. That said, sure, GMail could support other resolutions better. I have to make my window tiny in order to make Reply remotely unusable - what's your problem with it? - I have the "Undo Send" Labs features enabled, so I can undo a lot more than your unintentional sends. I can undo my intentional but ill-considered sends, too. - I can go to Google…

- I cannot get 1920x1080 monitor on a laptop. It would defeat the purpose. My problem is this: http://backwardcompatible.net/images/gmail.png * top posting is useless when you have long e-mail with 6-10 points to address in it. * being able to see 7 lines at a time is my real problem * the other real problem is when I have a 100-line email with 10 points to address in it and 10th point ends on line 34, I want to be a…

Shift-Ctrl-End.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by medde » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:16 AM UTC

eli wrote: post #19

colmvp wrote: post #9

Speaking of e-mail, why does Gmail show a different total number of search results depending on which 'page' you're viewing it from the search results? At least Yahoo gives the exact number. Example: http://i.imgur.com/n1qeN3i.gif

It's an estimate. It would add additional time to the search to calculate an exact number.

If it works like Google-Search, results are not an estimate, or not even random, it looks like it is inflated .... for example, if you navigate to https://www.google.com/search?q=zzzfgh , it tells you 5,900 results until you reach a page where there is no more results and it tells you 484 results (for example, I never seen an estimate that was lower then the real count)

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by tuananh » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:18 AM UTC

oz wrote: post #66

ValentineC wrote: post #41

I'm looking forward to a Yahoo Mail for Domains feature. If they introduce it, it could mean the nail in the coffin for Gmail.

For what it's worth, Outlook.com now offers free mail hosting for your domain, up to I think 150 addresses.

50, I believe. And no IMAP though.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by look_lookatme » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:22 AM UTC

masnick wrote: post #10

If you're tired of the gmail interface (like I was), I'd highly recommend http://fastmail.fm . I made the switch (moved 55k+ messages with http://protips.maxmasnick.com/export-gmail-to-fastmail-or-an... ) and haven't looked back. FastMail offers a similar infinite scroll feature. I was able to select and move several thousand messages through the web interface when I was first configuring it. FastMail's highlights fo…

For the last week, as a test run I've had a Fastmail account that I've been forwarding my gmail to and have been using Mail.app to check my email. Having been a gmail only user for so long, I totally forgot how handy it is to have emails and drafts in many different windows and how pleasurable a zero latency interface is. Granted, my email habits are a lot different and more high volume than when I last used a proper email client, but still, it's refreshing.

This is a minor nit, but most of the really interesting stuff you can do with Sieve requires the 'variables' extension, which Fastmail doesn't support for some reason. Other than that, it's really nice.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by sourc3 » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:26 AM UTC

Although my primary email is Gmail, I recently had the need to get an email for a domain name I own. Since Google stopped offering free custom domain emails, I gave Outlook.com a try.

I was pleasantly surprised. Things seem to make a lot of sense and I like their metro/flat design on the web, easy on the eye.

If you are bored of the new UI changes to Gmail, I'd suggest you check out Outlook.com as an alternative.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by malandrew » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:53 AM UTC

I'm honestly surprised that there isn't yet any open-source software (client and server) that mimics Gmail but works with any IMAP service.

If there is room for many email apps (Sparrow, Apple Mail, Mutt, Outlook, Thunderbird), there should be a market for many web-based email backends and there should be room for an open-source Gmail analogue that be people can extend and improve.

Someone ought to make a web-mutt.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by jiggy2011 » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 3:59 AM UTC

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

I don't understand the logic behind the new tiny compose window, it looks like something from an IM program. If I'm composing an email surely the most important thing is the thing I am composing, so why give it 1/4 of the screen space?

The second most important thing is the email I am replying to, but the compose window pops up over the top of that obscuring a chunk of it.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by frenger » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 4:00 AM UTC

masnick wrote: post #10

If you're tired of the gmail interface (like I was), I'd highly recommend http://fastmail.fm . I made the switch (moved 55k+ messages with http://protips.maxmasnick.com/export-gmail-to-fastmail-or-an... ) and haven't looked back. FastMail offers a similar infinite scroll feature. I was able to select and move several thousand messages through the web interface when I was first configuring it. FastMail's highlights fo…

> - An archive folder that works well with the archive functionality in Mail.app and other clients.

I switched to Fastmail a few weeks ago and am as pleased with it as you. Just one question though - I can't find a way to recreate the "All Mail" folder from Gmail, where you would delete mail in Mail.app and it would end up in "All Mail". It ends up in Trash instead. Same with my iPhone - if I delete a message there, it goes to Trash, not "All Mail" like it used to with Gmail. Were you able to get this to work?

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by frenger » Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 4:03 AM UTC

stock_toaster wrote: post #7

wellboy wrote: post #3

The "best" email client now is one run by a non NSA-company using Ajax, so not Gmail, neither Yahoomail. Anyone knows good ones?

I like fastmail. Their two-factor auth leaves something to be desired though -- I also wish there was an imap/smtp only password type.

I moved to Fastmail too because they're Australian, though I later found out Australia is PRISM-compatible: http://www.theage.com.au/world/snowden-reveals-australias-li...

> "Mr Snowden said that the other partners in the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance of the US, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand 'sometimes go even further than the [National Security Agency] people themselves.'"

edit: got link wrong