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Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by owlmusic »

dorkrawk wrote: post #120
gamegod wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This strategy benefits Apple, but screws over independent software developers/vendors. Look at the top 10 apps in the Mac App Store. That list is always dominated by Apple's applications like Logic and iWork because of this pricing strategy. Nobody else can afford to sell a DAW for $200 and make money. IMHO it's some kind of anti-competitiveness but I don't know if there's a term for it. Maybe it's just a fact of lif…

That's not totally true. I've heard from several professional musicians who use Reaper ( http://www.reaper.fm/ ) and it sells for $225.

Reaper also has the excellent discounted license for $60 which covers a lot of musicians who would otherwise be forced by the singular license of Reason / Logic Pro / Ableton Live.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by brunorsini »

This took forever... I'm impressed by the many updates but think I might just stick to Pro Tools. Switching DAWs is a bit like switching programming languages, in a sense, huge time cost.

The built-in iPad remote control is cool though. Neyrinck makes a good one for Pro Tools, however: http://www.neyrinck.com/v-control-pro

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by stephth »

Exciting addition, almost missed it:

Scripter

Extensible plug-in that can process or generate MIDI data using standard JavaScript.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by adamnemecek »

caplingerc wrote: post #47

"Retro Synth. Far-out sounds. Not so far away." hopefully this means they got rid of the ridiculously over-complicated extraterrestrial-looking synth interfaces in favor of something that actually makes sense.

Yeah. Considering how much Apple prides itself on good UI design, I have no clue how ES2 happened.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by kolya3 »

gamegod wrote: post #109
calinet6 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with many of Apple's recent price drops (OSX, iWork, etc. etc.) I think it's a highly strategic and intentional move, not reflective of the greater market, but showing that Apple is enabling the larger success of their brand by enabling more people to purchase and use these pro apps at a lower price point. Plus, it will sell Macs, both laptops and Mac Pros. Smart.

This strategy benefits Apple, but screws over independent software developers/vendors. Look at the top 10 apps in the Mac App Store. That list is always dominated by Apple's applications like Logic and iWork because of this pricing strategy. Nobody else can afford to sell a DAW for $200 and make money. IMHO it's some kind of anti-competitiveness but I don't know if there's a term for it. Maybe it's just a fact of lif…

Both Ableton and Reason are over $400 and tons of musicians still choose those over Logic. For many, price is not the only consideration when picking a DAW and there are plenty of developers selling mere VSTs, not even DAWs, at $200/pop.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by dfrey »

wavesounds wrote: post #92
Griever wrote: post #69

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I've actually been storing my Logic projects on GitHub for a while. It works pretty well for the most part, but I do run into some issues when dealing with the size of the files. Perhaps Logic X shrinks them down in size a bit in comparison to Logic 9, but I doubt it. Here's the repo if you are interested: https://github.com/jpsullivan/LogicProjects One day I'd really like to make an open source album that people cou…

I was also thinking about how cool open source albums would be! Your 'band' could now be 100 different people all spread out around the world. Then perhaps instead of an album being 'done' we'll just release v1.0.

I'm sure this has been done a number of times before, but this group is comprised of two people who have never met in person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_for_Three!

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by saturdaysaint »

NamTaf wrote: post #46

For a company that just threw out skeuomorphism as a design principle, the amount of drumkit, pedal, amp and mixing deck images this thing has is surprising. The pitch correction stuff is cool - I dreamed of that sort of stuff a while ago, but never made any attempt to try to work out how it'd work. I wonder how it works with voices and the like, as opposed to string instruments.

I swear I recall (probably on the excellent createdigitalmusic.com) a quote from an Apple engineer around the release of Logic 9 saying that musicians consistently rate skeutomorphic plugins as sounding better than flatter counterparts.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by ssharp »

jolohaga wrote: post #121
wavesounds wrote: post #57

Has anyone tried using Github to manage and share a Logic Pro project? I work on music with someone 300 miles away and I'd love to have the power of git. Right now were both using different DAWs and export audio to dropbox. This release of Logic looks great and my partner is already using Logic so if I switch over and implemented git we could ideally be working off the same files all the time with version tracking, b…

It seems Apple could in part address this by including iCloud support in Logic.

I'm surprised this hasn't been addressed yet, given:

1) How many professionals use Logic 2) How common it is for said professionals to pass tracks back and forth over email, im, Dropbox and other filesharing services

Maybe advertising such as service gives artists an unwarranted assumption of privacy and security vs. using something like email where there is less expectation and more assumed risk.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by thirdsun »

hissworks wrote: post #101
thirdsun wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Live started as performance and it is often presented as such, but its studio workflow is not a second class citizen at all. In fact the general workflow is one of Live's strong points. I spent a lot of time with both Live and Logic and I rarely used complex software that is as intuitive as Live. In my opinion everything in Live is where you'd expect it to be. Devices are plain and straight forward, no br…

|The only thing I miss is Logic's low latency mode which is useful if your project becomes big and you need to record another track late in the production progress.| To do this you can "freeze" a collection of tracks in Live. It essentially locks every action you've applied to a track (and perhaps even quietly renders them to temp WAVs) in order to free up computing power.

Of course I know about freezing, but low latency mode just bypassed several resource heavy effects/instruments with the click of a button - no rendering time, or (un)freezing required. It worked very well.
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