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Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by jolohaga »

wavesounds wrote: post #57

Has anyone tried using Github to manage and share a Logic Pro project? I work on music with someone 300 miles away and I'd love to have the power of git. Right now were both using different DAWs and export audio to dropbox. This release of Logic looks great and my partner is already using Logic so if I switch over and implemented git we could ideally be working off the same files all the time with version tracking, b…

It seems Apple could in part address this by including iCloud support in Logic.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by texel »

thirdsun wrote: post #43
chasing wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I've used both extensively. They share some qualities, but as the name suggests, Ableton Live is really geared towards live performance use. Logic is more for straight-up production. I mean, people use Ableton Live for production, but I think Logic is more flexible overall. (Because it's simpler, though, Live may be friendlier for people just getting into digital audio production.) Also, just check out the inter…

I disagree. Live started as performance and it is often presented as such, but its studio workflow is not a second class citizen at all. In fact the general workflow is one of Live's strong points. I spent a lot of time with both Live and Logic and I rarely used complex software that is as intuitive as Live. In my opinion everything in Live is where you'd expect it to be. Devices are plain and straight forward, no br…

Since the later 8.x versions, Live has had a "reduced latency when monitoring" option which allows you to do just that.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by Sephiroth87 »

bsaul wrote: post #44

The price tag really reflects that the music industry is the poorest of all creative industries (aka video, photo, 3D and web). When i think about all the genius algorithms and technologies that products like Ableton or logic Pro ship it really saddens me.

Apple stuff is expensive = Bad Apple stuff is cheap = Bad

LOGIC!!!

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by jolohaga »

gideon_b wrote: post #117
bsaul wrote: post #44

The price tag really reflects that the music industry is the poorest of all creative industries (aka video, photo, 3D and web). When i think about all the genius algorithms and technologies that products like Ableton or logic Pro ship it really saddens me.

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion, Mac software is priced as bait for Apple hardware. Professional recording equipment is very expensive, and high-end producers have no qualms spending a few grand on Pro Tools plugins. Logic isn't the Photoshop of recording, it's more like Sketch.

Photoshop could never inspire me to do anything artistic.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by mortenjorck »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #108
nsxwolf wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It shouldn't be surprising. The real instruments aren't going anywhere and are found side by side with installations of Logic Pro. These images aren't archaic reminders of objects no longer used in daily life. It's not like the iOS Phone app icon, which depicts the outline of a style of phone handset many people below a certain age have never seen or laid hands on.

The fact that I've had an iPhone for 4 years now and didn't realize that that icon looked the way you described it is more a testament to muscle memory as a design principle over anything aesthetic.

At this point, the phone handset icon is barely even an icon – it's essentially become a pictogram or a hieroglyph. I don't see this as something to lament or resist, though. While it's beneficial to know the visual etymology of the symbol, it's no more critical to understanding it than knowing the etymology of any of the words you use in normal conversation.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by baddox »

crucialfelix wrote: post #125

they should just call it Garage Band Pro now. this used to be pro software but they've really killed off their professional users.

I have never used any version of Logic, but the reviews I have read are all saying that none of the power features have been removed. The Macworld review is titled "Logic Pro X loses none of its power, gains great new features" [0]. The Loop even explicitly says "Rumors have circulated for a long time that Logic Pro was going to be discontinued or that it was going to be reincarnated as some sort of 'GarageBand Pro.' ... this is far from a GarageBand knockoff. This is the same professional digital audio workstation software that we’ve used for years, only better" [1]. And again, macProVideo says "many people feared Logic would be 'Dumbed-down' into a 'LogicBand / GarageBand Pro,' ... I'm pleased to report, it's the same Logic you know and love, but with a fantastic facelift and some brilliant new features." [2]

[0] http://www.macworld.com/article/2044283/logic-pro-x-loses-no...

[1] http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/07/16/review-logic-pro-x/

[2] http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/review-2/logic-pro-x-review-t...

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by baddox »

eclipxe wrote: post #50
NamTaf wrote: post #46

For a company that just threw out skeuomorphism as a design principle, the amount of drumkit, pedal, amp and mixing deck images this thing has is surprising. The pitch correction stuff is cool - I dreamed of that sort of stuff a while ago, but never made any attempt to try to work out how it'd work. I wonder how it works with voices and the like, as opposed to string instruments.

Pro Audio software has always been ground zero for skeuomorphism.

Look no further than Propellerhead's Reason for a striking example. The software models everything, from the dials and switches of audio equipment all the way to the back of the rack, where audio cables are connected as desired (complete with hanging cable physics). Of course, it can be argued how much of this is truly skeumorphic, because most of it retains the actual functionality of the original real-life audio components.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by raviparikh »

NamTaf wrote: post #46

For a company that just threw out skeuomorphism as a design principle, the amount of drumkit, pedal, amp and mixing deck images this thing has is surprising. The pitch correction stuff is cool - I dreamed of that sort of stuff a while ago, but never made any attempt to try to work out how it'd work. I wonder how it works with voices and the like, as opposed to string instruments.

DAWs and VSTs have always had an incredible amount of skeumorphism, sometimes to the detriment of the user experience. Nearly every VST I've used will try to recreate the feel of analog knobs and buttons rather than more sensible design choices.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by ryen »

Sephiroth87 wrote: post #123
bsaul wrote: post #44

The price tag really reflects that the music industry is the poorest of all creative industries (aka video, photo, 3D and web). When i think about all the genius algorithms and technologies that products like Ableton or logic Pro ship it really saddens me.

Apple stuff is expensive = Bad Apple stuff is cheap = Bad LOGIC!!!

Logic is one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) of the higher end DAWs out there. Combine that with the amount of plugins and sounds it ships with at that price tag and I think its one of the best options out there.
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