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Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by egads » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

Logic 9 was also $199. There's also no upgrade pricing, so even though I just bought Logic 9 six months ago, the relatively low price point makes it a LOT more likely that I'll upgrade.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by jeremymcanally » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

Leaves you more money to buy that shiny new Mac Pro to run it on. :)

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by tazjin » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

It's not a surprise, they've done this to other pro products as well. The money Apple makes through these applications is a drop in the lake for them, by moving the price down so much they give competitors a hard time and appease consumers (and it's probably still at a net win).

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by dankoss » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

Since they put it on the app store Logic has been $199, because there isn't an upgrade price from previous versions that used to cost $500-$1000. I think it's another halo effect -- Apple wants to sell hardware and is willing to use cheaper software like Logic and Final Cut to draw pros and prosumers to the platform. Most other DAW vendors don't have hardware sales to fall back on.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by chasing » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

Probably as a hedge against people who already own Logic 9 getting annoyed that there's no upgrade price...

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by Roboprog » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:41 PM UTC

Do the pitch bend and modulation wheel controls (via MIDI) actually do anything with most of the synth sounds?

I've only just started tinkering with the "little brother" Garage Band program, but I was disappointed how bad support was for the pitch bend wheel from my keyboard into the supplied patches. (using pitch bend would cause secondary "note on" events which never got a "note off")

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by lewispollard » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:42 PM UTC

Roboprog wrote: post #16

Do the pitch bend and modulation wheel controls (via MIDI) actually do anything with most of the synth sounds? I've only just started tinkering with the "little brother" Garage Band program, but I was disappointed how bad support was for the pitch bend wheel from my keyboard into the supplied patches. (using pitch bend would cause secondary "note on" events which never got a "note off")

They do, and they're also fully assignable to whatever params you want to adjust.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by lewispollard » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:43 PM UTC

'Modern' interface a little extra Melodyne-like functionality with flex pitch, everything else just seems like it was already there but is now easier to access (ie arpeggiator without having to use the environment window)... Am I missing anything major?

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by smackfu » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:43 PM UTC

chasing wrote: post #15

mhax wrote: post #6

The $199.99 price tag is a surprise. Could anyone speculate as to why they'd be pitching it this low, given the price of competitors products?

Probably as a hedge against people who already own Logic 9 getting annoyed that there's no upgrade price...

Yep, it seems like this is Apple's "solution" to the Mac App Store not providing any discounts to previous purchasers. They did the same on several other products, reducing their prices dramatically when they went to the MAS.

Re: Logic Pro X

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Post by icarus_drowning » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 2:45 PM UTC

Roboprog wrote: post #16

Do the pitch bend and modulation wheel controls (via MIDI) actually do anything with most of the synth sounds? I've only just started tinkering with the "little brother" Garage Band program, but I was disappointed how bad support was for the pitch bend wheel from my keyboard into the supplied patches. (using pitch bend would cause secondary "note on" events which never got a "note off")

Yes, they almost always control something important. In VST/AU instruments they're often assigned to crossfade volume so that you get a natural tone colour change across the dynamic range.