Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by blacktulip » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:06 AM UTC

Linus on "acting professionally"
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Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by aymeric » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:12 AM UTC

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by lacion » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:24 AM UTC

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

i don't think sugar coating the world will make it less harsh.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by claudius » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:25 AM UTC

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

Sure, some answers are harsh, some are nicer, but as long as they get the job done, I don’t see a reason why one would want to complain about a ‘harsh’ answer – the world is not wrapped in friendly gift wrap and if you do something stupid, people are absolutely allowed to call you out on it without the unnecessary boilerplate in particular Angloamericans are so fond of using.

Short is good, harsh is not a problem, if short means harsh, so be it.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by lazyjones » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:25 AM UTC

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

I agree mostly, but I'm still wondering what kind of natural urges he is suppressing that he has to curse like that.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:28 AM UTC

lazyjones wrote: post #5

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

I agree mostly, but I'm still wondering what kind of natural urges he is suppressing that he has to curse like that.

The natural urge to hit the idiot he's talking to on the head with a baseball bat of course.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by aymeric » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:29 AM UTC

claudius wrote: post #4

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

Sure, some answers are harsh, some are nicer, but as long as they get the job done, I don’t see a reason why one would want to complain about a ‘harsh’ answer – the world is not wrapped in friendly gift wrap and if you do something stupid, people are absolutely allowed to call you out on it without the unnecessary boilerplate in particular Angloamericans are so fond of using. Short is good, harsh is not a problem, if…

Because "Short" and "nice" works too.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by lazyjones » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:30 AM UTC

claudius wrote: post #4

aymeric wrote: post #2

I find his answer very reasonable (although I also found some of his past answers quite harsh).

Sure, some answers are harsh, some are nicer, but as long as they get the job done, I don’t see a reason why one would want to complain about a ‘harsh’ answer – the world is not wrapped in friendly gift wrap and if you do something stupid, people are absolutely allowed to call you out on it without the unnecessary boilerplate in particular Angloamericans are so fond of using. Short is good, harsh is not a problem, if…

> if you do something stupid, people are absolutely allowed to call you out on it

The problem with cultural differences is that the effect of this might be not the intended one: the person you shouted at will consider you rude and as someone to avoid instead of reflecting on their actions and trying harder the next time. So it's not really smart to act like this, even if you feel it's "natural". You need to be someone important to be able to afford it and Linus (still) is.

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by acqq » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:32 AM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #6

lazyjones wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree mostly, but I'm still wondering what kind of natural urges he is suppressing that he has to curse like that.

The natural urge to hit the idiot he's talking to on the head with a baseball bat of course.

He's lucky he grew up in older times and outside US:

http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Texas-teen-charged-with-...

"Texas teen charged with making terroristic threat after online joke"

Careful with baseball bats here! Whatever we consider it, the "online world" became bigger and started to be less tolerant for friend-between-friend exploring of "who can think of something nastier."

Re: Linus on "acting professionally"

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Post by reirob » Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 10:33 AM UTC

I like Linus - he has character, style and he fights to stay himself no matter how often people want him to change.

Some quotes I liked:

So as far as I'm concerned, the discussion is about "how to work together DESPITE people being different". Not about trying to make everybody please each other.

I'm also not going to buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because THAT is what "acting professionally" results in: people resort to all kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their normal urges in unnatural ways.