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Re: Quine Relay

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Indeed. That's a transmutation circle of awesome.

I think he's referring to the relative uselessness of the code. Yes it would have taken a lot of time, talent and intellect to produce but from what I understand is of relatively little use? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?

That's the entire point of a quine.

Re: Quine Relay

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If I make a ranked list of all the ways that people spend their time, I cannot imagine a sensible scoring algorithm that puts making a quine relay lower in value than posting an internet comment bitching about somebody making a quine relay.

bitching about someone making a quine relay takes like 10 seconds, though.

That's because there's only ten seconds' worth of intelligence going into the bitching.

A truly worthwhile bitching would take at least an hour.

Re: Quine Relay

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Indeed, the Japanese ruby community has quite a few interesting characters like this.. In fact, someone even wrote a book about using ruby as a base for creating esoteric languages! http://www.amazon.co.jp/Ruby%E3%81%A7%E4%BD%9C%E3%82%8B%E5%A...

I really wish there was a translation of this.

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Re: Quine Relay

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I feel awful for pointing this out, but the author spelled Copyright incorrectly in the last line. Fortunately, he can correct it without blowing out his Ascii art by deleting the extra space between '##' and 'Quine'. I'd issue a pull request myself, but it'd be like me putting soy sauce on a piece of Jiro Ono's sushi. I am completely unworthy.

But then the cycle would probably not close anymore - the end result would not be the initial code.

Re: Quine Relay

#135
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a) The author is Jewish b) It's semantically relevant (Probably the latter. Same goes for the typo in the copyright notice in the end.)

He's Japanese, and one of the authors of the Ruby programming language

Being Japanese doesn't actually preclude you from being Jewish. It makes it highly unlikely... but not impossible.

Re: Quine Relay

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post #38
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I'm sorry, how is that sad?

possibly that someone clearly very smart wasted his/her intellect doing this, rather than advancing the species by curing obesity, heart disease and cancer?

So are you saying that if he had not spent his time doing this, he would have cured cancer? You're forgetting the amount of people this will inspire to go on and create amazing software.

Re: Quine Relay

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Perhaps my favorite paragraph on all of wikipedia: INTERCAL has many other features designed to make it even more aesthetically unpleasing to the programmer: it uses statements such as "READ OUT", "IGNORE", "FORGET", and modifiers such as "PLEASE". This last keyword provides two reasons for the program's rejection by the compiler: if "PLEASE" does not appear often enough, the program is considered insufficiently poli…

COME FROM also allows elegant aspect-oriented programming :)

> COME FROM also allows elegant aspect-oriented programming :)

I used to make fun of Intercal, until I had to do with a Simulink model that made use of FROM blocks.

It's just as retarded as you'd expect. It's as if someone intentionally decided to take a step back from structured programming, and then some more steps back.

Re: Quine Relay

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I also know plenty of people who waste their intellect painting canvases, when they could be advancing the species by doing something practical. Shall we shed a tear for their wasted efforts as well? But of course not. Art is its own justification. And this program, my friends? This is art .

Art that only exists for the sake of existing, without intent to express, explore, or otherwise stimulate human mind - art of that sort is garbage. There are plenty of people who vehemently defend that garbage, but it doesn't make it any less wasteful use of human time and attention. Personally, I will never respect it simply because there was a lot of effort involved.

On the contrary, to the extent something intends to "express, explore, or otherwise stimulate human mind," it isn't art - it's rhetoric, or science, or entertainment. Obviously lots of works of art were created for some end (renaissance paintings functioned as religious and political propaganda; Shakespeare's plays are entertaining), but they are art to the extent that they step back from that end, and display what Kant calls "purposiveness without particular purpose."

Re: Quine Relay

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He's Japanese, and one of the authors of the Ruby programming language

Being Japanese doesn't actually preclude you from being Jewish. It makes it highly unlikely... but not impossible.

True.. but you're more likely to find a Japanese Mormon than a Japanese Jew.

Re: Quine Relay

#140
post #71
post #3

In case someone is able to run this beast, I'd appreciate an upload of the intermediate source files.

Working on it now. I started a repo where I document the things I had to do to get it to work, i.e. where I had to do something other than what was in Mame's README: https://github.com/SilasX/QuineRelayFiles The intermediate source files I've been able to generate so far are in /output_files: https://github.com/SilasX/QuineRelayFiles/tree/master/output... Edit: Direct link to the go file: https://github.com/SilasX/Qu…

Woot! Pascal issue fixed in a later commit:

https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/commit/5d8c1e61a5012b9b5...

(Replying to self because I can't further edit that comment.)

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