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Re: Quine Relay

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Post by SilasX »

quchen wrote: post #3

In case someone is able to run this beast, I'd appreciate an upload of the intermediate source files.

Working on it now. I started a repo where I document the things I had to do to get it to work, i.e. where I had to do something other than what was in Mame's README:

https://github.com/SilasX/QuineRelayFiles

The intermediate source files I've been able to generate so far are in /output_files:

https://github.com/SilasX/QuineRelayFiles/tree/master/output...

Edit: Direct link to the go file:

https://github.com/SilasX/QuineRelayFiles/blob/master/output...

Edit2: I ended up copying so much of what was already there that I re-did this as a fork, adding my contributions in two directories (installation and intermediate):

https://github.com/SilasX/quine-relay

So far I'm stuck at an issue with the Pascal compiler not accepting long strings, which can be fixed either with a compiler switch or by editing the source earlier in the relay.

https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/issues/3

Re: Quine Relay

#72

Post by snsr »

gambler wrote: post #55
breadbox wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also know plenty of people who waste their intellect painting canvases, when they could be advancing the species by doing something practical. Shall we shed a tear for their wasted efforts as well? But of course not. Art is its own justification. And this program, my friends? This is art .

Art that only exists for the sake of existing, without intent to express, explore, or otherwise stimulate human mind - art of that sort is garbage. There are plenty of people who vehemently defend that garbage, but it doesn't make it any less wasteful use of human time and attention. Personally, I will never respect it simply because there was a lot of effort involved.

That's a pretty caustic take on an inherently subjective matter: the appreciation of beauty.

Also, in what way is this exercise not exploratory?

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by wicknicks »

hnriot wrote: post #38
GuiA wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, how is that sad?

possibly that someone clearly very smart wasted his/her intellect doing this, rather than advancing the species by curing obesity, heart disease and cancer?

I don't think people want to spend all their time trying to fight cancer or heart disease. Once in a while, you really need to get your mind to work on entirely useless things. IMO, that sort of mental workout makes people tackle the real hard problems better.

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by e3pi »

Remember those delightful self-referential Scott Kim creations in Godel Escher Bach? Here, made alive, and becomes most everything in the known coder's world. A super-chameleon quine mime.

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by vedant »

I successfully compiled every intermediary, and posted all of the code in a gzipped tarball here: http://goo.gl/EBZFV.

I started a tiny stub post here, where I'd like to dig into the code over the next couple of days: http://vedantmisra.com/2013/07/yusuke-endohs-amazing-quine-r...

I also made an EC2 AMI, ID ami-744b351d, for anyone who would like to try this themselves.

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by jlgreco »

quchen wrote: post #28
polemic wrote: post #21

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And: https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/blob/master/QR.rb This project isn't code, it's art. Edit: Heh, Brainfuck, Whitespace, Logo... and notice they're all in alphabetical order?

Brainfuck is fairly practical compared to Unlambda and INTERCAL.

I have to admit that I was a little let down to see that APL was not included. Not in the same class as those languages... technically.

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by vedant »

quchen wrote: post #3

In case someone is able to run this beast, I'd appreciate an upload of the intermediate source files.

I successfully compiled every intermediary, and posted all of the code in a gzipped tarball here: http://goo.gl/EBZFV.

I also made an EC2 AMI, ID ami-744b351d, for anyone who would like to try this themselves.

I started a tiny stub post here, where I'd like to dig into the code over the next couple of days: http://vedantmisra.com/2013/07/yusuke-endohs-amazing-quine-r...

I posted about it earlier in a reply here to OP.

Re: Quine Relay

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Post by raldi »

gambler wrote: post #61
raldi wrote: post #49

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Do you feel the same way when someone bakes a cake, takes a walk, watches a sporting event, knits a sweater, or writes a poem?

The effort involved in doing this is incomparable with the things you just mentioned. This is nothing like baking a cake, more like spending thousands of dollars to build a life-sized Eiffel Tower out of matchsticks.

You have no idea how long it took to write this program. I bet it's less than the amount of time a typical baseball fan spends watching games over the course of a season.

P.S. Knitting a sweater takes forever too. Especially if it has buttons.

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